RMAF 2012 Postmortem

Petrakis, I see you are now having second thoughts on the Vapor Audio speakers. I understand.

I would not be surprised if the "unmeasurable" artifact irritating to Dpe's and other's ears is related to the torsional distortion related to a ribbon's twisting (slight as it may be). Planar's do not suffer (or suffer less) from this problem, due to the increased stability provided by the planar's substrate (typically mylar), albeit a planar speaker may not be perceived to sound as "fast" as a ribbon.
Over the last thirty-five years, I have yet to hear a ribbon (not to say this may not happen) without a "sheen" to its character. Some people like this, some don't. I find the sound of ribbons to be interesting, albeit one, over time, to be fatiguing, and at the end of the day less like music, instead, more effect driven.
Their simplicity offers a very high cool factor: secure a thin strip or strips of aluminum within a strong magnetic field and transform ac voltage from the amplifier to modulate current to the ribbon. What could be simpler--taking into account simple does not always mean easy?
There are still some aspects of audio reproduction that have yet to be measured. And even if we arrive at a point where we "believe" all that can measured has been taken into account, at that same point in time we will have lost our senses.
My suggestion: don't lose your senses (as whimsical and unreliable they may be for discerning an enduring, unchanging "truth').
If a given sound brings up a red flag, per se, it is worth trying to understand the source of the red flag (it may be the polarity of an AC plug needs to be reversed?).
In today's world of "measured perfection," many have become less and less attuned and trusting of their senses and gut feelings, change as they may over time (welcome to maturation). Measurements may provide an interesting map to look at, but the territory is for each of us to discover on our own.

I wouldn't say second thoughts, just keeping my options open. The Vapor Joule is my top choice at this time. The Analysis panels, I have doubts would work in my very large room where I'm rarely in the sweet spot. And the Rosso's sounded quite nice, but were a bit utilitarian. I flat out loved the sound of all the Vapor designs, and also like that I can customize the look to fit a house where everything is custom already.

Jpl208, did you send me a PM? I tried to figure out how to check and can't tell if I have one or not.

Petrakis LOL, didn't need to send you a pm as the Vapor Audio speakers are now listed in the classifieds. Good luck with your Vapor postings.

Petrakis. Have you followed Jp1208's threads? Don't let this person sway your opinion. I'm sorry Jp but ive been following your interaction with Vapor and its less than professional on both sides. I personally wish you would stop your rant with Vapor and Vapor should get off this web site now. Ive read a ton of reviews of Vapor loudspeakers all of which were positive. You had an issue and it hasn't been resolved to your liking so you're using this forum to tear Vapor apart. On the other hand Vapor has been responding to your rants which is straight up bad business. Both of you need to handle your issue outside of this forum. This is pathetic. Neither of you are getting anywhere by using this forum to
resolve your dispute. Move on please. I don't think this is the purpose.of Audiogon and since there doesn't appear to be a living moderator here any longer I guess Ill step in.