Rogue vs ARC


I wonder the Rogue M150 or M180 is on par with the VT100 or Ref 110 from Audio Research. They seems to be voiced as moden tube sound but I have not been able to listen to the Rogue.
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But Tvad, what would Audiogon be without sweeping generalizations and unwavering opinions and conclusions? All kidding aside, I think the need to discuss all amps in the context of the speakers being used is essential to relevance of any assessment regarding said amp.
I do know there is some really nice synergy with my Tyler Decades and Rogue-several people have that system around here and elsewhere.
I noticed the Rogue M150s has a dampening factor closer to solid state levels, whereas the ARC tube amps spec much lower. Is that why some say Rogue has more of a modern tube sound?

I did have the ARC VT100 an really like it and would recommend it because it does so many things really well, but the bass could be a little fat and uncontrolled at times. At least on the speakers I used that were a little bassy too:)
The REF110 better be better as it cost twice as much.

I don't think ARC has a current offering that would be a good head to head challenge, imo.
It might be more interesting to compare the Rogue M150 monos with the QuickSilver V4 monos with VTL's ST-150 (stereo). All are about the same tube power and close in price-close enough. The closest ARC amp is the VS115, but that cost a little more too.
The best amp for the money is the Rogue M-180's. Awesome. Ref 110? wheres the bass? I will take the M-180 over the Ref 110 any day.The Rogue M-180 is the GIANT KILLER!Look out al you $10-$20k amps.