Rogue vs ARC

I noticed the Rogue M150s has a dampening factor closer to solid state levels, whereas the ARC tube amps spec much lower. Is that why some say Rogue has more of a modern tube sound?

I did have the ARC VT100 an really like it and would recommend it because it does so many things really well, but the bass could be a little fat and uncontrolled at times. At least on the speakers I used that were a little bassy too:)

The REF110 better be better as it cost twice as much.

I don't think ARC has a current offering that would be a good head to head challenge, imo.
It might be more interesting to compare the Rogue M150 monos with the QuickSilver V4 monos with VTL's ST-150 (stereo). All are about the same tube power and close in price-close enough. The closest ARC amp is the VS115, but that cost a little more too.

The best amp for the money is the Rogue M-180's. Awesome. Ref 110? wheres the bass? I will take the M-180 over the Ref 110 any day.The Rogue M-180 is the GIANT KILLER!Look out al you $10-$20k amps.

Has anyone had the Rogue 120 Magnum <> Rogue M-180 upgrade done? I know the price ($2,895).......but I'm wondering what parts from the 120's get used, if any?

I've only read info on the M-150 <> M-180 upgrade which of course costs a whole lot less.

I've had my 120's driving my Apogee Duetta Signatures for around 6 years now. The 120 Magnums sound great on the Apogees but they run very hot! Even hotter than the old Krell Ksa-250 they replaced.

Dave

I directly compared the Pass Labs XA100.5's and the Rogue M180's.. WOW the M180's better than the pass's. The rogues had much more control of the low end and equaled the pass on the midrange and highs. Anyone on he fence about the rogues should make the jump. They are amazing.. My next upgrade will probably be the Rogue Apollos, if the M180's sound this good I can't imagine what the Apollos sound like.