Rogue vs ARC

I do know there is some really nice synergy with my Tyler Decades and Rogue-several people have that system around here and elsewhere.

I noticed the Rogue M150s has a dampening factor closer to solid state levels, whereas the ARC tube amps spec much lower. Is that why some say Rogue has more of a modern tube sound?

I did have the ARC VT100 an really like it and would recommend it because it does so many things really well, but the bass could be a little fat and uncontrolled at times. At least on the speakers I used that were a little bassy too:)

The REF110 better be better as it cost twice as much.

I don't think ARC has a current offering that would be a good head to head challenge, imo.
It might be more interesting to compare the Rogue M150 monos with the QuickSilver V4 monos with VTL's ST-150 (stereo). All are about the same tube power and close in price-close enough. The closest ARC amp is the VS115, but that cost a little more too.

The best amp for the money is the Rogue M-180's. Awesome. Ref 110? wheres the bass? I will take the M-180 over the Ref 110 any day.The Rogue M-180 is the GIANT KILLER!Look out al you $10-$20k amps.

Has anyone had the Rogue 120 Magnum <> Rogue M-180 upgrade done? I know the price ($2,895).......but I'm wondering what parts from the 120's get used, if any?

I've only read info on the M-150 <> M-180 upgrade which of course costs a whole lot less.

I've had my 120's driving my Apogee Duetta Signatures for around 6 years now. The 120 Magnums sound great on the Apogees but they run very hot! Even hotter than the old Krell Ksa-250 they replaced.

Dave