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Schroder sq and the new talea

I heard there was to be a fun time of learning and comparing of these two arms at the rmaf. Since the talea is relatively new, it still has to stand the test of time with comparisons on other tables, other systems and the selective and subjective tastes of discerning audiophiles! There is to be a comparison in one of the rooms at the rmaf this year, which i wasnt able to make. I would be curious to hear some judicial, diplomatic, friendly talk about how they compared to each other in the same system and room. I currently own the origin live silver mk3 with a jan allaerts mc1bmk2 and am enjoying this combo but have become curious about the more popular "superarms" Hats off to both frank and joel.

I hope this thread draws more light rather than heat. If someone preferred one arm over the other it would be OK. With all the variables it doesnt mean that much to me. What matters to me is what it sounds like to me and in my room. With that said...

What was your bias? was it for the schroder or the talea?

cheers!...
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dgad
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All of my statements are generic. I am aware about the A90 variation. Heard it from quite a few users.

Jtinn,

I never mentioned who told who what. Got me confused on that.

I have never owned the Talea so I don't have anything good, bad or otherwise to say other than it looks cool. It might be an excellent arm but I am happy enough to not feel the need to look further for tonearms at this time. If someone wants to lend me one to try I have no problem comparing it. But it will take me time. Any of my comparisons take time. About a month to become familiar with the sound, setup variables, etc.

But honestly a show like RMAF to do a shootout of anything will be limited. The room, speakers etc. You know when you heard great or good sound. But to attribute bad or poor sound to anything is quite difficult. Almost the same speaker in 2 different rooms w. different electronics had huge differences. I didn't think the Artemis room to be special. But I have no familiarity with any of it to know better.
dan_ed
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"But it will take me time." That is what I expected, but to date it hasn't taken anyone more than about 5 minutes. FWIW, YMMV, etc.

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swampwalker
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Wasn't there, wish I was, even now w all the info posted. I think T_bone has said it all. Good post, man!
peterayer
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Dan,

Five minutes is a bit optimistic ;^) The first time I ever heard the Talea was when it was being compared to a Kuzma linear tracker in someone's home system. It actually took be about 15 minutes to recognize its superior performance. Only one variable, the arm, was changed and it was in a very controlled and quiet environment with my own music. It was a very convincing demonstration. The Talea is a very good arm.

I'm sorry I missed this demonstration, but I was wiped out by 8:00PM and went out to find some dinner.
jtinn
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Dgad: My comment of, "It is my understanding that it was the other way around. I heard Frank approached Joel." was in reference to your statement of:

"I have no idea about the Talea, but if I was marketing an arm, I would definitely go after Schroder's market to get my arm accepted. The only one with something to lose is the one on top."

HOpe that clears it up.
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