Schroder sq and the new talea


I heard there was to be a fun time of learning and comparing of these two arms at the rmaf. Since the talea is relatively new, it still has to stand the test of time with comparisons on other tables, other systems and the selective and subjective tastes of discerning audiophiles! There is to be a comparison in one of the rooms at the rmaf this year, which i wasnt able to make. I would be curious to hear some judicial, diplomatic, friendly talk about how they compared to each other in the same system and room. I currently own the origin live silver mk3 with a jan allaerts mc1bmk2 and am enjoying this combo but have become curious about the more popular "superarms" Hats off to both frank and joel.

I hope this thread draws more light rather than heat. If someone preferred one arm over the other it would be OK. With all the variables it doesnt mean that much to me. What matters to me is what it sounds like to me and in my room. With that said...

What was your bias? was it for the schroder or the talea?

cheers!...
vertigo
Thom,
I think as long as people enjoyed themselves and are adult enough to deal with and understand what went on, I think you did no wrong by letting it go on, even if it may not have turned out to be the comparison some hoped for. From Mosin's comments (#3 comment in the thread), one doesn't get the feeling Frank and Joel are wrapped up in angst as to how things turned out. And as Dgad points out, whoever owns one but not the other tonearm still has a tonearm which until recently was thought of as top dog or which for many people is now (or still) top dog. Bravo to you for making the effort to allow two top tonearm designers to put on a well-considered and highly anticipated display of analog reproduction prowess. I am sure that many who attended were afforded a taste of the possible and went home dreaming that some of the 'losing' tonearms start showing up on Audiogon at half price. I, for one, would have loved to have been there.
Dgad, I'm not sure if you were referring to the Talea or making a general statement. There were no gimbal bearing arms in the session. The Talea is a unipivot.
All of my statements are generic. I am aware about the A90 variation. Heard it from quite a few users.

Jtinn,

I never mentioned who told who what. Got me confused on that.

I have never owned the Talea so I don't have anything good, bad or otherwise to say other than it looks cool. It might be an excellent arm but I am happy enough to not feel the need to look further for tonearms at this time. If someone wants to lend me one to try I have no problem comparing it. But it will take me time. Any of my comparisons take time. About a month to become familiar with the sound, setup variables, etc.

But honestly a show like RMAF to do a shootout of anything will be limited. The room, speakers etc. You know when you heard great or good sound. But to attribute bad or poor sound to anything is quite difficult. Almost the same speaker in 2 different rooms w. different electronics had huge differences. I didn't think the Artemis room to be special. But I have no familiarity with any of it to know better.
"But it will take me time." That is what I expected, but to date it hasn't taken anyone more than about 5 minutes. FWIW, YMMV, etc.

dealer disclaimer
Wasn't there, wish I was, even now w all the info posted. I think T_bone has said it all. Good post, man!