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Schroder sq and the new talea

I heard there was to be a fun time of learning and comparing of these two arms at the rmaf. Since the talea is relatively new, it still has to stand the test of time with comparisons on other tables, other systems and the selective and subjective tastes of discerning audiophiles! There is to be a comparison in one of the rooms at the rmaf this year, which i wasnt able to make. I would be curious to hear some judicial, diplomatic, friendly talk about how they compared to each other in the same system and room. I currently own the origin live silver mk3 with a jan allaerts mc1bmk2 and am enjoying this combo but have become curious about the more popular "superarms" Hats off to both frank and joel.

I hope this thread draws more light rather than heat. If someone preferred one arm over the other it would be OK. With all the variables it doesnt mean that much to me. What matters to me is what it sounds like to me and in my room. With that said...

What was your bias? was it for the schroder or the talea?

cheers!...
vertigo
dgad
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Vertigo,

I doubt any of the arms would be better than your Breuer w. Allaerts combination for what they do best. I owned that match and that is one of the great combinations. Only difference is I went up the Allaerts tree. But... the MC1b mk2 is great in its own right and the upgrade is not necessarily better and there are qualities of the MC1b that are better than the MC2 Finish.

In a nutshell, yes no best but there are great combinations out there. Not all needs to be equal to do a comparison. You just need to compare different great combinations. And yes a phono stage is part of the equation.
lewm
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Dear Vertigo,
I was trying for humor too, in conjuring up the image of Win lugging two Saskias to Denver. Anyway, for me it would be much much more thrilling to meet Penelope Cruz than to hear a bunch of old farts argue about the "sound" of two tonearms.
vertigo OP
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Dgad,

That helps thanks!

Also...

***You just need to compare different great combination's***

That just about sums it up and is a good formula for building a system.

What tonearm/cart combos have you liked alot?

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dgad
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Vertigo,

TW arm w. MC2 Finish, and Schroeder SQ w. Titan i (but the setup is critical). These 2 are believe it or not close in sound (neither on the same arm will sound that close) and are what I consider fairly neutral.

I did love my Koetsu Jade w. an Ikeda but... it still remained a Koetsu both good and bad.

For me the MC1bmk2 is a superior alternative to Koetsu. All the magic with better dynamics. Nice amount of gain and build quality is very nice. I got off the cartridge merry go round years ago w. what I have listed above. There are only 1 or 2 cartridges that might interest me. The XV-1T and if Lyra replaces the Titan i.

Also the ZYX universe which is quiet now on Agon was a great cartridge in the Schroeder. It lacked some things but did things no others do. What was nice is having different cartridge/ arm combinations allowed you to compensate for different LPs where the recording or sound needed something different.

But do not sell what you have. Keep it. It is a winner. Maybe add a 2nd alternative, but trust me you will miss it. I know I miss quite a few of my previous cartridges.
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syntax
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Wouldn't a schroder talea on a saskia shoot out be wild!?

it depends on your level of understanding what is going on. When you like to watch horse races and there are some cows running there too with a nice and expensive saddle, the jockeys onto say it is the best experience ever and you enjoy that...fun counts.
But when you prefer real horses...
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