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Sell your $$$ cables and conditioners... affordable LITHIUM is here!

I wanted to give you a frame of reference as to where I'm coming from and most importantly a first impression after 24hrs!
I've been an addict since my first system of KEF Concord speakers, Crimson Electric amps and an Ariston turntable back in college in '81. Since then I've been down the entire Linn system with Active Kabers, Full Meridian active system with DSP5200's as well as some burly NZ Perraux mono blocks with Sonus Faber when I lived in NZ. Since moving to the US in 2001 I've been through years of altercations between solid state camps from Bel Canto, Levinson stereo 336 to mono 436's, 532H and Mac 452 to speakers from B&W 802N and D2 to Wilson Sophia 2's, Sonus Faber Amati Homage and Revel Studio 2's. I've tried conditioners from Transparent, AQ Niagra, Isotek and others and every time come back to a decent cable straight from the wall.
Three years ago I took the plunge and went down the Devialet rabbit hole, streaming direct from a MacBook Air with ROON my Devialet D200 (soon to become a D400) drives my Focal Utopia Diablos via Analysis Plus Solo Crystal 8 speaker cables (and that's another whole can of worms with enormous cable differences), a JL Audio Fathom F110 (also about to be doubled up) rounds it out. My livening room is about 22x25 with 10ft ceilings and partially treated as best I can accommodate. 
Suffice to say, I've been around the block with hifi, listened to way more than my fair share at dealers and friends with diverse systems and currently run one of the most reveling systems I've ever heard. Sure, there's not that thick syrupy warmth the tube guys will clammer for, but then I'm hearing so much further into not just tonality but intent within the playing. 

If you read the review in Enjoy the Music from Tom Lyle, you'd see he equates the GZ Yeti to the $30k Stromtank. His review was the $400 Yeti 400. The Yeti 1000 was $1099, the 3kW Yeti 3000 is $2999 and will power almost anything. So, like Tom I took the plunge and bought a Yeti 1000 figuring it'd have plenty of 'headroom' for my meagre 600w consumption. (Though I have since plugged my JL Audio Fathom in too)

After playing the "FedEx f'ed up" again game, I finally went to their depot and picked up my new toy myself. After a handful of songs to establish a baseline for the evening, I simply plugged the Yeti 1000 in, reconnected the Devialet and sat back... My girlfriend was first to break the silence and then immediately regretted it as I couldn't help myself interrupting her for the next half hour of gushing over what a profound difference it was making.
H-U-G-E. Truly component level and an absolute game changer. 

I was immediately texting my good friend with his PS Audio Directstream, Gryphon Diablo, Audio Physic Avantera III all powered by the latest Synergistic Research Powercell 12SE and Gallileo power cord with AQ Hurricane to each component - SELL- SELL- SELL it all, get a Goal Zero! 

We stayed up until 2am listening, flipped it back for a handful of now unlistenable tracks and then back again to Yeti 1000 happiness. In over six hours of powering my Devialet and Fathom at 90+db levels it'd dropped to a laughable 98%. I'm guessing that means it'd run off the grid for 300hrs or more? That's probably a several months of listening for most people. Who even cares, it simply sounds spectacular and the single biggest improvement I've ever heard from anything less than a major amp or speaker upgrade. 

I know my system is fairly frugal and green running, my buddy Matts, Gryphon would probably need the 3000W Yeti as his amp pulls 1900W at full song and his full stack of components albeit front end certainly add a few hundred more.   He's headed down to me in a couple of week with a stack of exotic power cables and conditioners  to try and I can't wait to share my results - I'm guessing he'll want to steal it away for his own demo right after. I would imagine he'd even get away with the Yeti 1000, so long as he doesn't run it too hard?
leeagc
oldhvymec
5,101 posts
 
This discussion has gone off trail. Could we go back to discuss the benefits of running our gear on batteries.

This is the discussion, pros, cons. Pros: Very good source of clean energy. Cons:  No cons as long as WE FOLLOW the operating instructions.

Most folks understand why there is fire protection. Just like running a bare conductor in a wall.  We use to do it. Knob and Tube. NOW we have all bare conductors in a mechanical structure with enviro, fire and a common junction point for protection. 

This unit is very unique, and a GREAT idea. I'm thinkin' a pair of 1400 or a single 3000. I seldom turn the music off. So 24/7 is my goal.  I'd like to know WHY?? the protection was removed.  I haven't  figured if it's because of a fan coming on? I ask twice. Is that the reason? I just want to know if it can run 24/7.  NO MODS. LOL
I can deal with the fan during real serious set downs, tune in, and tune out  out sessions.

Can anyone else tell me, is that the reason? the fan noise? With a pair, I can set down, switch, and listen while the other is charging and not making noise, ay?? That was the second question and a third question I never got to. I got a little off track. That was not my intention.  Third point was cost? Are the batteries from the units just larger in size or are there just more cells, in a 3000 vs a 1400 and are the batteries interchangeable on any of the models? Anyone know or do any of the folks run 24/7. 

I'm always breaking in cables and sometimes signal valves (tubes)
12AT,AU,AX,AZs. 20 plus days a month. Making, cooking then finishing up the breakin on couple of systems.  Now does that make better since why I need to be safer than most.. Dog, Bunny, Blind spouse really, no kidding.

Being all Zened up is fine I just need the information, not the meditation.
BUT medication will cure most ailments. In this case tapper off the green one a bit, ay. hee hee

1. 24/7?
2. current cost of batteries, ava, and BTG cost. Is there a disposal fee?
3. interchangeable?

Anyone??

Regards
oldhvymec
5,101 posts
 

nevillekapadia80 posts09-05-2019 2:59amI have been following this thread for the use of the the Goal Zero Yeti, and then suddenly came across this on Kickstarter and took a plunge of getting the 1300 unit. Close to half the price of the Yeti1400.
Let's see how it works out as I will just use my digital front end for it.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ecoflow/delta-the-new-standard-of-battery-powered-generator 

I looked at this. Do you get a product or a promise to get one. I don't quite follow what's going on. 20 plus pages keeps going on about a pledge. Sure a nice looking unit. Lifetime battery warranty, quiet...
I really don't see a place to ask questions without a being a "sponsor".
Did you get a pretty ferm ETA?

I'm gonna do something within two weeks. Total solar with a really good backup system. I think there is some (rebate/tax/something to help with panels and such) money on the table if it's done right. I have to check on that. Tired of PG&Es save energy crap, Save any more I'll be using candles.
Regards
ricevs
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The fan noise is a problem for most audiophiles. Tom Lyle bought a Yeti 1000 for his big Pass Amp and puts it in a closet so he does not hear the fan. My friend just bought the 3000 and the fan turns on as soon as he turns on his big Pass amp. So, he is mounting it on the outside of his room (converted garage). The reason the fan comes on is because these units are compact and totally enclosed....you have a big battery and all the electronics sealed in a box....you have to have some air flow. This is why I recommend you get a separate inverter and battery. A lot of the big inverters have giant heatsinks and even advertise that the fans will not come on unless you draw a lot of current (you could also use low noise fans and blow air across the heatsinks on these large inverters and the fan might never turn on). However, a lot of people do not want to have an industrial inverter and batteries in their home system with a separate car battery charger. Some company should make an inverter for audiophiles that looks great, has lots of outlets and has enough heat sinking and air flow that it is quiet. This is what the $20,000 Stromberg is but you can get the same performance for a few hundred dollars in a Yeti.
oldhvymec
5,101 posts
 
The fan noise is a problem for most audiophiles. Tom Lyle bought a Yeti 1000 for his big Pass Amp and puts it in a closet so he does not hear the fan. My friend just bought the 3000 and the fan turns on as soon as he turns on his big Pass amp.

Thanks that is what I was looking for. 

The Kickstart units mentioned above require a temp range from XX to XX to give the best battery life. Not to cool not to hot. Warranty for life.

The question is the life of the battery or the life of the COMPANY. Which ever dies first? They are a startup, may be the best thing ever. I just want a little support for the next 15-20 if I could.  I'm a BIG Mac fan for just that reason. Quality, reliability, and longevity. Love my class Ds too. just love um. I have a pair of VTL 300 deluxe I had a long time. I just wonder how they would perform. Serious consumers, but truly custom tailored to my HF sensitive ears with planars. BAD VAC my ears just can't take it with planars. Clean VAC, nothing like it. VAC is VERY clean here, AND EXPENSIVE. I like the "sell back to PG&E" part, on solar. I'd like the biggest bang for the buck and a pretty decent reserve, in the event of, whatever..

I just swapped Brain 565s, and tubes for the warmer month ALREADY here. It is warming up where I'm at. 80+ a few day.. C2500, and Nords one ups. Just a wonderful combo with planars. But the 300s and 12k class Ds or the 565s for the bass, I would love to run um, but man oh man, 16 KT 90 valves at about 95 db, the meter is flying, and the room boilin'. AGAIN 20 + days at 24/7 lots of $$$. Electric consumption winter or summer, is pretty close. The stereo heats the house in the winter. I swap to cool the house in the sommer, and the extra VAC is consumed by Air conditioning. I just for once want to sell it BACK ... LOL

Thanks and regards

denzel4u
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Interesting discussion, adding my experience to help others out :-)

I read the review and started out with a Yeti 3000, replacing a Gigawatt PC4 EVO. I experienced the improvements people have already referenced in this thread. I had my entire stack connected to it, Dan Dagostino Momentum monoblocks, Jeff Rowland DAC and MicroRendu SE Streamer. The Yeti handled it fine, it did however shut off once when I really kicked up the volume, but only once. The intermittent fan noise never really bothered me, I play loud and when I heard it, it was worth enduring for the benefits.
I helped Kickstart the Deltas, and put in for two Delta 1300. They are a nicer design than the Yeti, does about the same. Maybe the sound is better, but that may my bias trying to validate the stupid double expense :-) But one monoblock for each Delta and the digital stack on the Yeti feeding the Gigawatt PC4 EVO. Sounds terrific and no problems no matter how loud I play. However, I think it may be overkill and I will be selling off the Yeti again. So if anyone needs a slightly used Yeti 3000, just say the word :-)
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