What condition is it, that no matter the discussion, you always bring up the same argument whether it applies or not? I wasn't feeling quite 100% last night. It must have been that low pressure depression over Kansas. There is no way it was the beer and the excessive sun ... not to mention I don't live in Kansas because low pressure depressions cause one not to feel 100% so it must have been that.
Should people with no turntable or reel to reel be considered audiophiles?
Just like those driving a Porsche SUV can join PCA (digital audio fans can join Audiogon) but are certainly not Porschephiles unless they also own a coupe (Panamera owners I guess gets a pass here).
Please respond with a yes or no and we'll tally a vote for the first 100 responses.
Please respond with a yes or no and we'll tally a vote for the first 100 responses.
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Yes. It's the mindset that counts so any kindred soul with a smartphone and headphones is welcomed by me. MP3 or FLAC. Those days when it was mandatory for any audiophile to have a turntable may have gone, but even after 140 years of the gramophone, spinning vinyl has not lost its charm. Some diehards may argue that the true age of the audiophile was back in those days when amps and speakers had to be built from kits due to sheer cost. They may have a point, or maybe not. Anyway, we salute you. You lead the way. From that perspective it is a bit hard not to feel that these kids of today don't know they're born. But wasn't it always? |
Dear @sokogear : " can’t deliver all the information of a continuous information flow from a cartridge that is not sampled. " really? because the cartridge is not sampled but neither continuous . and you insisted again: """ Within the range of human hearing, vinyl delivers a CONTINUOUS stream of sound. Tape/reel to reel is better - that’s what they use to capture the music in the studio and it delivers a continuous stream of sound as well. """ As all of us you need to follow learning to undeerstand your mistakes in your posts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIQ9IXSUzuM https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/why-no-interest-in-reel-to-reel-if-you-re-looking-for-the-ultimate-soun/post?postid=1959719#1959719 https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/the-very-best-sound-direct-to-disc/post?postid=1963764#1963764 "" 500 TT playing a good pressing will provide deeper, warmer sound .."" warmer sound? deeper? ( please explain this. ), that does not exist in live MUSIC seated at near field position as is where are the recording microphones. To understand it you only need to listen at live event SPLs to a horn/trumpet player at 3m. from him or a drum set at the same distance or a piano at 2m. and you will know that warmer is only in your imagination. That’s what you like but not the true sound of real MUSIC. MUSIC is not sweet or heavy colored, gentle, swetness and the like. MUSIC is agresive, with brigthness, powerful, with natural colorations, fully dynamic, great rythm, up-front, full emotive, etc, etc. More like digital alternative. I agree with what @roberttdid posted and ceratinly with @bdp24 where yes hardware is an " evil necessity " to listen MUSIC and at the end system hardware is only a tool. The audiophile likes to listen/enjoy MUSIC it does not matters the kind of system hardware. It’s not the system hardware what defines if you or any one is an audiophile but if he likes MUSIC. The hardware can gives you different quality sound levels on that reproduced MUSIC. Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS, R. |
Thank you rauliruegas, I couldn't have said it better, and often try, but too many audiophiles just don't want to listen nor accept that it is the imperfection of vinyl and the analog signal processing they like, not necessarily the accuracy, though there could be aspects of the "analog signal processing" that happens to interact with speakers and a room that recovers or more likely simulates additional information lost with a typical 2 channel playback void of specific aspects of information from one channel being added (out of phase) with the other. To understand it you only need to listen at live event SPLs to a horn/trumpet player at 3m. from him or a drum set at the same distance or a piano at 2m. and you will know that warmer is only in your imagination. That’s what you like but not the true sound of real MUSIC. |
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