So many great golden era DD tables out there, what do you recommend for $1000?
Uber, As a true Victor Fanboy who owns both the TT-81 and TT-101.....let me introduce you to the VICTOR QL-A7 which I bought for my son and which I compared directly alongside both my TT-81 and TT-101. Both the TT-81 and TT-101 incidentally, have Bi-Directional Servo Control-FACT. For much less than $1000....you can have one of the best sounding DD Turntables from the great Japanese Victor Company....INCLUDING a very fine arm. Take your pick HERE Good luck. |
I assume the main difference between the qla7 and ql7 is just that one is auto the other is manual.I think you assume correctly Uber. My son loves the feature on his QL-A7 which at the end of each record, lifts the tonearm and stops the platter. It doesn't return the arm to rest so there's no real complications to go wrong....😃 |
You're right Lewm in your recollection of JP Jones' skepticism about Victor's Patented Bi-Directional Servo...... And then Hiho (I think) produced all the World Patent Documents for it which floored JP who said he needed to read all the documents to try and understand the principles. He never reported back...🤔 I don't think enough documentation exists for the significance of Victor's Bi-Directional Servo Control to be appreciated. It is the exact opposite of Technic's design which utilises a powerful motor with huge torque to control a massive platter. With the Victors......a lightweight aluminium platter is controlled by a medium-powered motor (sometimes coreless) combined with their various servo-controllers....with the Bi-Directional Controller utilised in their higher models. So radical was this approach, that Yamaha 'borrowed' the designer of the TT-81 from Victor, to modify it with a coreless motor to use in their acclaimed GT-2000 and the Goldmund Studietto used the motor from the TT-81 with Micro-Seiki putting it all together. That innovation in analogue engineering runs throughout the entire Victor repertoire during the Golden Age of Analogue. From cartridges to platter mats to tonearms to turntables...the Japanese Victor Company turned out some of the real jewels which still today...can hold their own. That's why the QL-A7 is so ridiculously undervalued at its performance levels. Shhh....don't let the secret out. ALL of the Victors are undervalued and under-appreciated IMHO...🤗 |
Not intending to make this a 'Pissing Competition' Peter..😝 But here is a video I made years ago of VICTOR TT-81 WITH TIMELINE I'm sure your Denon is very accurate, but if anyone has witnessed proof of the phenomenon known as 'Stylus Drag'....he knows that on many turntables, the speed will visually slow when the cartridge is lowered to the record and will likewise speed up when the arm is lifted. I'm not saying your Denon wouldn't preform as well as the Victors, nor am I saying there are no other turntables which could equal the feat of this TT-81 running three cartridges at the same time whilst being monitored by the Timeline. But I have seen no videos of any other turntable performing this feat 🤗 As such....I can claim with honesty, that this performance of speed accuracy and consistency, is currently 'matchless' 🤪 |
Well done Uber, I'm sure you won't regret this decision 👍 You may want to replace the capacitors in due course and you should of course, replace the original rubber mat with one of your own choice. The best sounding mat for the Victors I've found to be the Micro Seiki Cu-180 but I fear its weight might be too much for the bearing....so, believe it or not...the closest sounding mat to this heavy solid copper one is the Victor Pigskin mat (remember what I said about the Victor Engineering talents)? This mat however is virtually 'unobtanium'...so I found a close approximation to be the Jico Suede mats but I suspect they no longer make them. So HERE is a Pigskin Mat I found on Ebay which is worth trying....? Anyway...good luck. And don't forget to report back here with your impressions..🧐 |
04-09-2013 1:09amDear friends: Just for curiosity I gone to what the seller of my JVC TT posted on the ebay auction I won for 400.00: |
Came across this Post by another Contributor in the past:-
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That TT-81 looks to be a bargain...😃 Then there's this TT-101 which can't seem to find a buyer....? |
I've used a variety of mats for the Victors Cu180 COPPER ACHROMAT JEWELTONE GLASS MAT SUEDE MATS JICO CALFSKIN MATS VICTOR PIGSKIN MAT The best sounding in my system was the Cu180 but I felt it was too heavy for the bearing. The next best was the original Victor Pigskin which is nearly unobtainable. The Jico mats sounded good also but are no longer made. |
