So you think wire conductors in cables are directional? Think again...

If you don't know the relevance of 0.05% measurement accuracy to the measurement (or design) of audio equipment, you could just say so instead of trying to make it look like the fault of someone else.  A high school drop out would probably admit he or she does not know.

That is 0.004db as a level difference. At 20KHz, it is a frequency shift in a filter of 10Hz. You could just say I don't understand the relevance of 0.05% measurement error. 

cleeds3,802 posts05-17-2021 2:25pmedgewound

I trust your "moronic" comment will be removed, because it's abusive. But....with the fratboy mentality of rules enforcement around here, I highly doubt it

The moderators do a pretty good job here. If you disagree, I suggest you direct your concerns to them for resolution. Or, are you a "new" user who's been previously suspended from the site multiple times?

A detective, you're not. I've only one registration. Never been banned to come back as someone/something else. Maybe I should be flattered?

audition__audio831 posts05-17-2021 3:04pmedgewound is a musician. Explains a ton based on my experience with musicians especially those who play through amplification.

To some a little knowledge is a wonderful thing and to others a curse. Those who dont know what they dont know are a bane.

So typical to call for the removal of comments you dont like, especially when these offensive comments are no worse that others that jumped from your keyboard moments earlier.

Stay as long as you like edgewound, but perhaps you should quit while you are behind.

I've actually been in the audio business full time for the last 33 years and counting.

It's amazing the things one can learn about audio hardware/software in the professional and consumer markets after 4 decades with hands-on experience and how transfers through being a musician and attending both professional and consumer trade shows. CES, NAMM, AES. The consumer market has no standards body to answer to when it comes to outrageous claims. AES has pretty stringent standards when it comes to specs publishing. CES not so much. 

...and oh....BTW...not one person has come up with evidence that the wire conductors in cables are directional.

Why?...because they aren't. 

And if you simply cannot understand the simple concept without attempting to get into molecular physics at audio frequencies, you're hopelessly in search of something that isn't there. So much has been said that has been deleted because of contradictory statements....while trying to change the subject away from the original post.

Even $8K he has not justified. A quick search shows $10K for 0.05% accuracy out to 1MHz.

OK, some misinformation here.  You claimed your LCR meter can measure up to  "0.05%" of accuracy.  How does that equate to .004dB at 20MHz?  Seems like a slight of hand.  Unless you are referring to frequency response of .0004db at 20KHz in which case you sort of changing your story.  I don't see how .05% of LCR can equate to .004db at 20MHz.  Anyway, if your meter can't measure the difference between silver and copper cables at 20KHz, I am not sure it is worth that much, because anybody can clearly hear the difference between silver and copper cables.  Oh wait I know what you'll say.  You say these people are all delusional and you're right.  I guess it's the case of the whole world is wrong and you're right.

But data will not be on your side here.  No two cables will measure to have exactly the same LCR.  But oh wait I know what you'll say since you guys are all too predictable.  It's all "below human hearing threshold".  Like parrots repeating each others.  But a lot of these guys at the so called "measurement websites", have no clue about the science of human hearing.  If you have no idea about human hearing, how in the world do you know something is below the human hearing threshold.

I have to laugh at some of the attempts of these guys trying to measure cable frequency distortion.  They would compare the distortion of two cables, and declare that they are close enough to be all below human hearing threshold.  They actually tried to show off that they could measure up all the way to 100KHz.  I had to laugh.  A flaw measurement doesn't make it right even if you can do it at 100KHz.