I wouldn't be able to compare a regular Line 3 and an SE because I had mine originally built to the SE specs before they were available and have only known it this way. About 6 months or so before the SE upgrade was introduced my dealer told me about all the above (SE) upgrades he had had SF do for his personal unit [and it sounds much better....] so "why don't you do the same..." which I did. The only significant differences from your $899 upgrade is that mine came with 12 x Valvo ECC88's [instead of the Teslas]; Rel-Cap interstage coupling capacitors; and instead of the Kimber wire I use all Harmonic Technology speaker wires and interconnects so I had all the input and output wiring changed to silver Harmonic Technologies.Oh, and I paid more than the $899 to have it done! But it has been a really wonderful staple in my system. I can't praise its virtues enough and couldn't be happier without investing a lot more. I'm sure there's plenty out there these days which are exceptional too, but when you factor in all its features, user friendliness/versatility in addition to its sound... (not to mention build quality and reliability), it makes for a formidable piece of equipment. That all said, if I were you I would probably ask about the price difference if you chose to use your own tubes, it's worth the inquiry.My vote is "it's so much pre already, it's still worth putting a little more $$ into..". IMHO. Good luck.Happy Lissnin.
Sonic Frontiers Line 3 "SE" upgrade - worth it?
I am considering having the "SE" upgrade done on my Line 3 pre-amp by the Sonic Frontiers factory. The upgrade is currently priced at $899 and includes:
* Tesla ECC88/6DJ8 tubes
* Gold Plated Ceramic tube sockets
* MultiCap RTX polystyrene capacitors (the best)
* Caddock & Vishay bulk foil non-inductive resistors (most neutral, tightest tolerance)
* Holco metal-film resistors (fabulous sounding)
* Kimber Silver Streak "balanced" interconnect (as premium internal hook-up wire)
* SPECIAL EDITION faceplates
Is this upgrade worth it? The new components they use look good, but I'm not sure about the Tesla tubes that are included. They might be better than the stock Sovteks, but I have a number of matched pairs of Telefunken, Siemens, Amperex and Valvo tubes (all E88CC or E188CC) that are probably better. I'm not sure that paying for tubes that I might not use if worthwhile. I have to ask them if they can do the upgrade without the tubes for a reduced price -- or should I take the tubes and re-sell them a factory matched set for the Line 3?
Any experience or thoughts you have on the SE factory upgrade and tubes for the Line 3 SE would be appreciated. Thanks!
* Tesla ECC88/6DJ8 tubes
* Gold Plated Ceramic tube sockets
* MultiCap RTX polystyrene capacitors (the best)
* Caddock & Vishay bulk foil non-inductive resistors (most neutral, tightest tolerance)
* Holco metal-film resistors (fabulous sounding)
* Kimber Silver Streak "balanced" interconnect (as premium internal hook-up wire)
* SPECIAL EDITION faceplates
Is this upgrade worth it? The new components they use look good, but I'm not sure about the Tesla tubes that are included. They might be better than the stock Sovteks, but I have a number of matched pairs of Telefunken, Siemens, Amperex and Valvo tubes (all E88CC or E188CC) that are probably better. I'm not sure that paying for tubes that I might not use if worthwhile. I have to ask them if they can do the upgrade without the tubes for a reduced price -- or should I take the tubes and re-sell them a factory matched set for the Line 3?
Any experience or thoughts you have on the SE factory upgrade and tubes for the Line 3 SE would be appreciated. Thanks!
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