Froggie. I don't think the issue is Stan "hijacking" the thread. Whether or not you agree with his comments, they are in response to Tweekgeeks baiting IMO. In other words, don't ask questions without expecting answers.
I do not have a dog in this fight however I am uncomfortable with any vendor encouraging the use of his/her product. Informational value aside, there is an ethical issue to consider. All of this, as I said previously, IMO. |
Frogman,
I was responding to tweakman's questions. So the initiator gets moderator priveleges? Must be a new Agon policy. :-) You're a funny guy though. Have a great evening. All my best. |
Stanhifi, I don't appreciate your attempt to hijack this thread for you selfish motives. As the initiator of this thread, I'd like to say that if you don't have something substantive and helpful to say on the subject that really matters here, please BUTTOUT! |
>>Hifistan you work for Adona don't you.<<
No I don't.
>>Just curious,tell us your thoughts and experiences with various coupling methods,devices and materials versus your experience with isolation methods or materials.<<
50+ plus years as an audio hobbyist and trained musician.
>>I am a Starsound dealer and have been for a couple years.<<
Then you should register as a commercial user here not a private individual
>>I have worked in the audio retail industry for over 30years...for others.<<
So?
>>I do not sell product over the WEB....<<
Of course you do. Look at most of your posts here on Audiogon which allude to one product or another that you sell
>>My advice and experience is what I have to offer and its free, take it or leave it.<<
Your advice is tainted by a fiduciary interest in your products
>>I do have a patent pending on a acoustic coupling device for musical instruments. It is mine and is shared with no other individual or company<<
Wow
>>What sir do you have to offer in experience, or technical backround?<<
Unlike you an unbiased and honest evaluation of this thread's and other threads contents based on 50 years of experience.
>>And why do you seem to follow me around on these threads?<<
Challenging misguided opinions and misstatements.
>>Are you a stalker or what?<<
Hardly |
Well said, Tom. I'm not familiar with StanHiFi but I am familiar with being stalked around here for the last 3 years. By a relative no less and his behind-the-scenes behavior is far more pathetic.
Perhaps the most bizarre behavior Ive yet encountered outside of the movies.
-IMO |
Hifistan you work for Adona don't you. Just curious,tell us your thoughts and experiences with various coupling methods,devices and materials versus your experience with isolation methods or materials. I am a Starsound dealer and have been for a couple years. I have worked in the audio retail industry for over 30years...for others.I do not sell product over the WEB....My advice and experience is what I have to offer and its free, take it or leave it. I do have a patent pending on a acoustic coupling device for musical instruments. It is mine and is shared with no other individual or company.. What sir do you have to offer in experience, or technical backround? And why do you seem to follow me around on these threads? Are you a stalker or what? Tom |
Theaudiotweak, why are you registered as a private user if you are a Starsound dealer? Just curious. |
Actually I prefer the sound/performance gains using the APCD coupling discs between the point surface and wood, poly or glass. The fact you have the same material as a intercepting surface collection area actually sounds better to me, than merely dumping the collected resonance from the Audiopoint tip directly into wood, poly or glass. Surface tension and mass all seem to make the point more or less reactive as does the first type of material the point comes in contact. I have found the point tip sounds better without the APCD disc when in direct contact with concrete floor or in direct contact with a metal chassis weighing more than 15 pounds. Anything weighing less than 15 pounds benefits audibly with the use of the disc at the point tip.Tom..I am a Starsound dealer. |
Thanks for the comments so far. Stehno, I normally would not worry about tiny dimples in the floor, but my 150 lb Paragon Regents do a lot more damage than little dimples; hence my concern. In fact, they have actually gone right through the oak parquet. |
Frogman, you are correct that the goal is to mechanically ground or couple the speakers to the floor.
The coupling discs will compromise the sonics but they should not negate them.
Unless, you plan on dragging the speakers across the floor, I would not worry about the 3 tiny dimples that the points would put into the floor.
The goal here is transfer the vibrations away from the speakers and into the sub-flooring system as expeditiously as possible. Anything between the point and the floor, including a coupling disc, will compromise that transfer to one degree or another.
-IMO |
I have found just the opposite to be true when speakers are placed directly on a suspended wood floor without any rug or carpet in between the spike and the wood flooring. Well designed pucks do a great job of preventing vibrations inherent in the speaker cabinet from being passed through to a suspended wood floor, which in turn lessens the extent to which the floor vibrates and muddles the sound in the listening room. I use Sound Anchors Conecoasters, which markedly improved the tightness and tunefulness of my bass reproduction as compared to the sound before their installation.
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You can couple with spikes or decouple with isolation (Bearings/Sistrum)
You option is to Float the speakers I have great success using Aurio Pro's. I float both of my subs this way and it beats the stock footers.
I used Sistrum SP4 stands also with the spike protector and there was still a huge difference but their brass protectors are still meant to help. I have also tried it without spikes directly on my carpet and the bass is muddier because the speaker is so low and it is not de-coupled or coupled.
Chris |
