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Speakers The single most critical component

I know we've been over this Q hundreds of X's over the past 20 years here on audion, You can find dozen of topics dealing with this Q <which is the ,,,,most important component...>>
well time for yet 1 more topic dealing with this,, perhaps unanswered, un-resolved issue.
I'm bringing up the old hachet due to my recent experience acutally hearinga FR in my system. 
Let me tell you, there is not even 1 traditional/conventioanl/xover design <The Boxed Type>> in the world that could convince me  , there is something that will beat out FR (caveat, FR requires  some sort of high sens =sensitivity, tweeter)  in  the Boxy world of speakers.
That is to say, FR + Compression Horn is the future of 21st Century high fidelity. 
One lab has already brought us these ~~~SHF~~~ aka SuperHighFidelity  single drivers. 
The code word here is ~~SHF~~~ which can not never be employed when describing xover/trad/conventioanl style  aka The Box designs. db level under 91 are _<<IN-EFFICIENT>> , = dysfunctional, out dated, old school , = Dinasaurs. 
For amps, I only consider tube amps (PP and SET) as ~~SHF~~~ I can not include ss amps in this topic. 
IMHO all well made tube amps sound very close,
 a  kt88 in brand X will sound  close to brand Y. 
So amplification takes a  distant 2nd place in critical component.  No need to break the bank buying amp A vs  a  lower priced kt88 amp B
CD players, nearly all  tube DAC's , tube cdp-ers sound  close. No need to braek the bank over X vs Y.
My Jadis DAC is  only miniscule gain over the Shanling,
 the Shanling
only a  miniscule gain over the Cayin CD17. 
Now as for  best source  , phonograph is the ideal playback medium vs cds. 
I have some LP's now , but my main collection are classical cds, most not on LP version. Cables , I did note some gains employing silver/copper wiring throughout my entire system including inside the Defy.
Tweak worthy.
New Mundorf caps in all componets, tweak worthy. 
Yet the main central component remaisn the speakers.
Here is where  the entire audio resolution either rises to Nirvana or falls to <<distortion/muddy waters,/pollution/anti-fidelity  voicing  issues.
Your system's fidelity is ultimately dependent on what speaker  you have chosen to employ.
Forget all you've learned over the years, 
The new mantra is <,The speaker is key component>
All else is just extra tweaks/nuances. 
To sum up, a  ~~SHF~~ driver will match even the top of line Wilson weighing in at hundreds of lbs priced $$$$$$$ overa single FR driver. 
FR beats out any/all xover box design speakers. Mostly due to that key specification ~~db level~~~ which is everything in speaker design and thus in resolution/fidelity. 

mozartfan
mozartfan OP
2,143 posts
 
Just out of curiosity, just wondering
if there were other threads  showing interest in Voxativ
Sure enough there area  few.
However, some have been DELETED, CANCEL CULTURE, Moderattors shut  a  few down.
Why?
Is audiogon for free speech Or against out constitutional rights to free respecful, civil speech??
Moderators?
Well this thread is close to get shut down, I am sure. 
sad, if so, 
Even if it does, there were more than 5000 views in less than 1 week. I think this is a Audiogon count record since this  forum began. 
So if we have 5000 views, this shows more folks are gaining interest in all things audio and increases Audiogon  popularity as a  audio chat forum where new ideas can be discussed and explored.
This is what makes Audio a  new adventure, and hopefully will allow newbies to make better more critical judgements in their purchases. 
Thats all I am attempting to do with this topic. 
Think outside the box.
If I have acheived this, I am not at all disgruntled about my recent $1800 loss in box xover upgrades. .
Kind Regards.
fleschler
1,993 posts
 
I've heard quite a few excellent quality speakers that employ three drivers with the mid driver covering a wide frequency range and the woofer&tweeter extend with low and high crossover frequencies.   They act like a FR with some help.   I have not heard a FR dynamic box speaker using one driver that I want as my main listening room speaker.
dletch2
455 posts
 
One could argue that the most important range to cover with a single driver is from about 200Hz to 1500Hz. This is the frequency range where we use timing information for location. Outside that frequency range, flat frequency response and consistent L/R frequency response would be more important.
douglas_schroeder
3,281 posts
 
No stopping a man with infatuation, be it with women or speakers. No reasoning with him, as well. We have several members with their own particular Transducer Tunnel Vision, my phrase to describe the phenomenon.   :) 

Voxativ speakers are quite nice and do some things very well. But, obviously presenting a FR speaker as ideal  (The nebulous term "superhighfiedelity" or SHF is being promoted by the OP to promote speakers without crossovers) because it avoids a crossover is problematic when the company offers supplemental subs with crossover.   :) 


larryi
3,909 posts
 
The basis for the OP's opinions has slowly become more clear--some of the comparative research involves viewing on-line videos.  I don't see how that can be of ANY value in evaluating sonic performance.  There is only one way evaluate the sound and develop one's own personal taste and that is by listening to the gear.  Even the most gross characteristics that one hears from a video is primarily that of the speakers the viewer is using and NOT that of the speaker being recorded.  It is also highly flavored by the microphones being used (probably not high end Telefunkens, or Schoeps or the like), the room where the recording is being made, the recording technique employed (a skill taking many years to perfect), the upstream electronics, the recording gear. . . .


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