Subwoofer Question


I’ve decided to try a sub in my system but without much experience with subs I bought a Definitive Sub Pro 80. This is for 2ch audio. It had great reviews and for the price I thought I might give it a try. I have a pretty small listening room, so I don’t think I need anything much bigger. There is certainly more bass to the system now, and I kind of like this; however it through my system off balance. Stage is much more difficult to control it seems like. Now it sits on the left side near the speaker. My question is… do I need to get a second sub? Different sub? Maybe, position it differently?

Thanks.
moganes

Showing 2 responses by chelan313

Do understand your comments, at least I think so. However, my experience is that the waves including lowest audibles can be felt and /or heard coming from a direction. Asking the question after the event, where did the event (sound) come from and one's answer must be their best estimate and I don't know being disallowed as an answer.

The first subs I auditoned were way back in time and in Seattle at a Magnolia audio store. I went back five or so times as I am a hard sell by most standards. The designs were downfiring as many were, and some still are. Nearly impossible to detect, immediately, the direction from which these low HZ originated. The sub fregencies just were in the room. The richness of sound was very much UP a notch or two. The side-firing designs, which are the two I have (Genesis Servo's), do emit sound to my ears from a direction either directly from the drivers and reflectively off objects, as I roam continuously about the listening room. With only one sub operating, what I am hearing is originating from a general area, and only one area. The walls and floor are very significant in this room and any room, we all agree? When both subs are connected and placed one on the right and one on the left (I prefer maximum separation and have settled at fourteen feet between), the low HZ are coming from a larger area. And the room is filled with more low HZ sound. And the direction that the sound originates from becomes very difficult to ascertain. Move away from SPOT and the point of origin becomes more ascertainable, including pinpointing some reflective sound and surfaces.

I decided on side-firing for one reason. I simply wanted as much of the music (sub sound) to arrive at my ears before bouncing off of other objects, that being the floor. It would seem logical that the shorted distance and most unobstructive path to the ears, when at the SPOT, produces the least delay and a positive result. Two side-firing, and set up to face the SPOT, are the best I have ever listened to, to this day.

Another contribution. I lived with a single sub (powered Genesis Servo 12) and do, or did, hear some lop-sidedness. I use Outlaw ICBM Base Management (an active x-over unit) to filter the lowest HZ to the sub, and away from the low-mid drivers of the main speaker pair.

A second sub (powered REL Q 200e) was brought in by another audio friend and connected at the stereo subwoofer outlet of the ICBM. Mode switch set to stereo, and the blend (combine) to off, and spl level of each sub set as equally as possible.

As I roamed the room, the bass was coming from the left arena and bass was coming from the right arena, so far good. Sitting in the "sweet spot" or SPOT about center and each sub pointing to about the SPOT and spaced fourteen feet, I quickly realized that the bass was centered and not lop-sided. Very noticeable, very blended, very balanced, very different from only one sub. In a nutshell, it is bigger-bolder-better. Important to this is the sound levels of each sub is adjustable. Also, I do not have access to and use of corners like some of you have. My sound room is also owned and used for sitting by my wonderful wife.

I bought a second sub (used Genesis) after one week of listening, yet would have after the first thirty minutes. Never any regrets, extremely happy. Difference to me was between 5% and 8% improvement.

Sound level of entire system with two subs is simply controlled by me at the preamp (First Sound Reference, a dual mono design). ...Lower frequencies may be less directional, yet in a larger room size, you have to fully fill a room with sound. One sub just doesn't quite cut it, as the room size enlarges. My space is 18 x 22 x 16 (lwh).
Thanks all for reading....