Supporting Local Audio Stores are we?


I know, money talks, bullshi* walks...
But having owned an audio store for about a dozen years, I know how tough it is to 'make a living' for a mom and pop store, without some sugar daddy/momma in the background funding the enterprize.
So, I am wondering if the nice folks of Audiogon support local businesses?
As I stated, "Money Talks" and I get it, we all want the best 'value' for our money. The question is...when does the price versus local support begin/end. When does the follow up and or service/set up outweigh the raw savings?
To be clear, I am not talking fantastic discounts, but a few percentage points off retail. I remember a painful transaction that I had once, during which a customer had taken home a particular CD player two weekends running, only to purchase elsewhere because he 'saved' $53.00 (on a $500. item). OUCH!
I contended that without the long term audition, he had nothing on which to base his purchase? How does everyone else see this?
Right now, its obviously a tough financial climate out there, but looking to more normal times, I am wondering how many of the readers/writers of Audiogon would forego price for service/set up? OK, forget buying great used pieces for fractions of original retail, everyone must probably assume that that's good for everyone, including the dealers, as this frees up customers who are now, 'back in the hunt'.

It will be interesting to hear back, it's been some time since the Brick and Mortar (at least for me) question was aired out.

Best,
Larry
lrsky
On the net, via Audiogon various cables and power cords have come to me. I have auditioned pproducts from net brick and motar stores, when they were what I wanted or was looking for and passed the audition I bought them. As I rule though, I buy local, usually demo pieces. Have always gotten great service, long term loans (2 weeks to a month) and in my opinion great deals. Is a brand new piece of equipment better than a demo? Quite possibly, but is a demo better than a second hand piece again quite possibly. It comes down to this, and up to 10 or 15 percent difference the money goes locally. If we don't support our local stores, in time they will disapear and it is my bet that the quality in audio gear will go with them.
If a manufacturer has no middle man and to need to demo his equipment, he just builds what he needs to sell. With no chance to compare easily, except via friends, the quality does not have to stay there. As has been proven in the past. It is multiple outlets, from store selling new and used equipment, the net, Audiogon in particular, and people just putting stuff out there in the neighborhood that makes the market happen. There is enough room for everyone and for them all to make a buck but not a killing. As the old market adage goes, bears make money, bulls make money, hogs get slaughtered.
I live in a High End Audio Ghost town (Houston) with only 2 (1 really) high end store. They don't discount at all, are very nice, but service a very small clientel. I do a try to buy vinyl from only the local guys unless they just can't get it.

But it's tough to compete with the internet. I think the high end manufacturers that don't sell over the web for reasons of principal are stuck in the previous century. It's a small world, with great price discovery and unless you have a truly unique product or great following, both of which can disappear instantly, you are just costing yourself sales. The mark up on a lot of the high end audio gear is absolutely shocking.
It's getting tough to buy new because dealers carry limited stock. I have a dealer in my area that gives me good deals, lets me audition, hell he has shipped things to my house. when he has something i really like I try to buy.I try to use the used market to show me the way. I think once i'm more educated and want new items that are several thousand dollars, the used market will be very attractive, and might I say, I'm seeing very good deals these days in the used not new market.
"The mark up on a lot of high end audio gear is absolutely shocking."

Just looking for clarification Macdadtexas...I don't know what most people consider 'shocking' profits.
Are you of the impression that audio dealers making high margins or is it the audio manufacturers themselves who make 'shocking' margins on products. (You may have meant low, shocking can qo either way of course). I am guessing high, but clarification would be good, I think.

Great comments, good to see you alive and well Grant.

Larry
What's a Local Audio Store??? Seriously though, the big one by me went under a couple of years ago, and no, I was not supporting it. There are a couple of smaller stores by me now, and I'll buy a couple of nick-nacks here and there, but no major gear deals, the prices are just too high.

I do make an effort to buy American gear though, my electronics, turntable, and cables/cords are American made, my speakers Canadian and my CDP is Japanese. I suppose I could support American dealers if I chose to buy Chinese gear, but I can't afford American dealers AND American manufacturers.

Cheers,
John