Talk but not walk?

Now I can only talk base on my expereince on what I have gathered by Michael's tuning ways and what he has thought me and guided me through out this journey for many years. Many people seems to blame recordings as the culprit when it comes to a good musical reproduction in thier systems. This is because some recordings in thier system sounds just sublime so those that sounds bad must be due to a bad pressing or recordings that was not done right. This was also the same for me when I started dwelling into home audio. Prior to this I did follow the usual acoustic treatment at first reflection point, applying diffusers etc etc but nothing was giving me what was missing. I was quite disappointed with what I heard coming from my car audio setup.

There were some notes that ceased to exist in my home audio setup and certain details that was lost. Using the same cd in my car I could hear those notes with better perception of that particular recorded cd. This got me thinking what is happening and why is my expensive home setup not able to produce these notes. As I started doing more searches and trying to play that same recording in my friends setup I started realizing that there's more than just a bad cd recording/pressing or possibly not enough high end in my system lol!.

This was when I stumbled upon MG's old website which was giving me loads of information and real time tuning by other members on thier systems guided by Michael and few other members. This website (now tuneland)  to me was a place where I was able to get answers on why this is happening. So much so Michael was guiding me every step telling me to voice out around my listening space. Placing cardboards around and listening to the changes. During this process I was shocked to hear the transformation by applying these cardboards around my listening space. Now every step i took was not about making improvments but it was more about realising significant changes happening to my soundstage, tonality, imaging, presence and high/low notes. To me this is enough to say that those musical notes are all there but its not coming out and reaching to my ears.

So now the question, is that particular cd a bad recording well the answer is nope. It's all there but they were just not reaching to my ears due to blockage in many ways. This was the biggest lesson I learned from Michael. Slowly practicing and understanding what he meant by pressure zone, laminar flow and mechanical vibrations only then was I able to dig in deeper, unblock those blockages and bring out all those notes back in my home system. Untill today I'm still learning but as of now being used in tune ways im able to hear and shape up a sound stage that brings utter joy and tears to me.

Since this discussion is about the integrity of information, we have to recognize that there are many aspects to this hobby that are sorely lacking in integrity. Further, since we are discussing scientific concepts, I will point out what I perceive to be the use of a scientific concept that has become a buzzword which is the use of the term "quantum". I would certainly like to know how any company that uses the term quantum in the description of their product actually applies the science. Perhaps it just sounds cool. Here is an explanation as to the root of the term.

  

Quantum is the Latin word for amount and, in modern understanding, means the smallest possible discrete unit of any physical property, such as energy or matter. Quantum came into the latter usage in 1900, when the physicist Max Planck used it in a presentation to the German Physical Society. Planck had sought to discover the reason that radiation from a glowing body changes in color from red, to orange, and, finally, to blue as its temperature rises. He found that by making the assumption that radiation existed in discrete units in the same way that matter does, rather than just as a constant electromagnetic wave, as had been formerly assumed, and was therefore quantifiable, he could find the answer to his question.

Planck wrote a mathematical equation involving a figure to represent individual units of energy. He called the units quanta . Planck assumed there was a theory yet to emerge from the discovery of quanta, but in fact, their very existence defined a completely new and fundamental law of nature. Einstein's theory of relativity and quantum theory together explain the nature and behavior of all matter and energy on earth and form the basis for modern physics. However, conflicts remain between the two. For much of his life, Einstein sought what he called a unified field theory -- one would reconcile the theories' incompatibilities. Subsequently, Superstring Theory and M-theory have been proposed as candidates to fill that role.

A more succinct definition is here...

  A discrete quantity of energy proportional in magnitude to the frequency of the radiation it represents. 

I have written to at least one company asking how they employ "quantum theory" in their product with no response. We must be vigilant when accepting these terms and their possible implications.

I totally understand it is likely my listening space that needs work rather than bad recordings per se.
However to some their listening space is not an area that can be subjected to various treatments, ynow wife dictates etc, so some of the changes required are just not practical for any number of reasons.
I accept they are working for those who step into that area.There may be some areas I can work on that would not violate her who must be obeyed rules of the house and will gladly investigate further.
But as I have said for that 0.1% of recordings in my collection that I find to give poor reproduction on my system I will just have to live with it.

falconquest wrote,

“Since this discussion is about the integrity of information, we have to recognize that there are many aspects to this hobby that are sorely lacking in integrity. Further, since we are discussing scientific concepts, I will point out what I perceive to be the use of a scientific concept that has become a buzzword which is the use of the term "quantum". I would certainly like to know how any company that uses the term quantum in the description of their product actually applies the science. Perhaps it just sounds cool. Here is an explanation as to the root of the term.

Quantum is the Latin word for amount and, in modern understanding, means the smallest possible discrete unit of any physical property, such as energy or matter. Quantum came into the latter usage in 1900, when the physicist Max Planck used it in a presentation to the German Physical Society. Planck had sought to discover the reason that radiation from a glowing body changes in color from red, to orange, and, finally, to blue as its temperature rises. He found that by making the assumption that radiation existed in discrete units in the same way that matter does, rather than just as a constant electromagnetic wave, as had been formerly assumed, and was therefore quantifiable, he could find the answer to his question.

Planck wrote a mathematical equation involving a figure to represent individual units of energy. He called the units quanta . Planck assumed there was a theory yet to emerge from the discovery of quanta, but in fact, their very existence defined a completely new and fundamental law of nature. Einstein’s theory of relativity and quantum theory together explain the nature and behavior of all matter and energy on earth and form the basis for modern physics. However, conflicts remain between the two. For much of his life, Einstein sought what he called a unified field theory -- one would reconcile the theories’ incompatibilities. Subsequently, Superstring Theory and M-theory have been proposed as candidates to fill that role.

A more succinct definition is here...

A discrete quantity of energy proportional in magnitude to the frequency of the radiation it represents.”

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>>>>There is much confusion over what quantum physics is, what audio devices employ quantum physics or operate via quantum mechanics or quantum physics. However, it might be a little bit of an overreaction to condemn all audiophile devices marketed as quantum devices as hoaxes or suggest deception or lack or integrity. For example, the CD laser itself operates quantum mechanically, or any laser; they are “two dimensional quantum wells.”

More specifically, for audiophile devices, I design and market at least four products that operate quantum mechanically. Most of these quantum type products are explained in detail on my web site. The Intelligent Chip, for example, is a quantum device. It employs quantum dots as the active ingredient as it were. The Definitive Explanation of How the Intelligent Chip Works. And How the Teleportation Tweak Works. I do not necessarily vouch for other audiophile devices that employ the word quantum in their explanations. Having said that, I feel confident that there are other audiophile devices that probably do operate quantum mechanically, e.g., WA Quantum Chips.

Cheers,
geoff kait
machina dynamica
advanced audio concepts

@mapman "It was very touching  how gk pined for me when I was not posting for awhile.   He can't be all bad."

Well then, why not still meet him at CAF, and break bread?