Talk but not walk?

Hi glupson

"it is really silly to claim that everyone on this forum is selling something"

Of course it is, I was being metaphorical. As in everyone's selling something.

"I guess they can be tuned. Again, I am posting this just for anyone who may be interested how someone who apparently knows what he is doing is doing it and not for arguments about semantics."

I have to say I was floored when someone on this thread said that drums aren’t tuned. I’ve been tuning drums since I was 10 years old and never heard it called anything but tuning. Why would someone come up on an audio thread and say instruments aren’t tuned? Mind blowing!

Amazing some of the things I’ve been called out on, on this thread. I don’t know whether laugh or cry. I went out for some live music tonight and had my friend look up this thread and read it. He started laughing saying "your putting me on". I say no, read it. His next comment to me was (I’m not kidding) "are these retired old men with nothing better to do". STG that’s what he said. He followed it with while he patted me on the back "you have the patience of Job MG".

Maybe my friends and me are just a bunch of snobs. When we met up with the 3rd guy tonight the conversation continued for a few minutes and then we moved on, but it was the same basic response only even more surprise. Anyway it made for some good jokes through the night. But one thing that did get said that I thought was interesting was "I bet these guys have never read TuneLand". That actually made a lot of sense.

Also one last point, both of these guys have tunable systems, and maybe that shapes their view of some of the comments here.

Who knows

Michael Green
www.michaelgreenaudio.net

12 Angry Men Movie Quotes

Juror #3: Don’t give me that. I’m sick and tired of facts! You can twist ’em anyway you like, you know what I mean?

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Juror #3: Six to six... I’m telling you, some of you people in here must be out of your minds.

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Juror #3: [interrupting] You didn’t prove it at all. What’re you talking about?

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Juror #3: What’s the matter with you?

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Juror #3: That doesn’t prove anything. I’m a pretty excitable person. I mean, where does he come off calling me a public avenger, sadist and everything? Anyone in his right mind would blow his stack. He was just trying to bait me.

Juror #4: He did an excellent job.

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Juror #3: Well... say something! You lousy bunch of bleedin’ hearts. You’re not goin’ to intimidate me - I’m entitled to my opinion!

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Juror #3: Brother, I’ve seen all kinds of dishonesty in my day, but this little display takes the cake. Y’all come in here with your hearts bleedin’ all over the floor.....you listen to some fairy tales... Suddenly, you start gettin’ through to some of these old ladies. Well, you’re not getting through to me, I’ve had enough.

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Juror #3: What’s the *matter* with you guys? You all *know* he’s guilty! He’s *got* to burn! You’re letting him slip through our fingers!

Juror #8: “Slip through our fingers"? Are you his executioner?

Juror #3: I’m one of ’em!

Thank you Elizabeth!

"Everyone IS selling something".. either an attitude, or an idea, or a notion. Every post with any effort is selling it’s ideas.
So yeah, we ARE all selling something.
And it is sold cheap! All you have to do is read the post!"

I’m in absolute shock over some of these responses others have made. As I said above I even showed some friends of mine tonight. They couldn’t believe it. I asked them, if they thought I have been what folks here are saying and their response to me was that I’m the opposite from what I am being accused of.

It’s very strange to me. Thanks again Elizabeth!!

Michael Green
www.michaelgreenaudio.net

Elizabeth and Michael Green,

As poetic as "everyone IS selling something here" may appear to be, it is far from correct. Especially in early posts (mine included), there were some views and some thoughts, but there were also plain questions with not much else added to them. I am not sure if they were simple as people who posted them seem not to be satisfied with clarity of answers. Maybe those asking are out of tune with those answering. Putting attitude in explanation how everybody is selling anything definitely opens the door for not allowing further questioning by those who question, but has nothing to do with reality. I repeat, there were at least a few posts with questions without any opinion and those people were clearly not selling anything, not even attitude, if that can even be sold. Elizabeth's post reminded me of the way many of my friends in their early twenties were trying to charm girls with deep intellectual thoughts that, in the end, had no meaning. Parallel worlds on two different energetic levels and such.

It just happens that I showed this thread to a friend whose comment was "what is this, some paid advertising forum, the guy is trying to push his thing without answering any question when asked directly". Just like to your friends, who may be a bit biased because they are your friends, other friends with no bias (I just showed the thread and made no comment about anything) may have a different view.

It comes across as your friends mocking retired people, but they are not completely correct. For my part, I am not retired. In some way, I do have to agree with your friends as, many posts ago, I did mention that having Planck, Einstein, and Kim Jong Un in a thread about nothing existentially important (at least to those who had no interest in selling anything) shows we all have too much free time and should go back to doing something. It would be interesting to find out how many of your customers are retirees. I do not have even a wild guess.



Is reading Tuneland supposed to make people converts to whatever is there? OP was not even about Tuneland. Nor was it about Planck, Einstein, or Kim Jong Un, for that matter. It seems that things take turns to unexpected directions originally unrelated to the post.

In this particular thread, I am not taking any side and give a benefit of the doubt that some things may work (tuning) while having some doubts about the extent and usability/practicability of such approaches. I may never know. However, I do notice that thread started seeming more of a sales pitch and, for a lack of better word, ridiculing those posters who are not full believers.


On a completely different note, is there any use in demoing tuning system in a room in Las Vegas and believing that different equipment thousands of miles away will get the same benefit?