Teres vs VPI, SME, Origin Live, etc.


I have Manley Steelhead Phono Pre VII and Berning ZH-270 Amp, and I ordered a pair of Merlin VSM-MX. The next step is to upgrade my Table and Arm. I am thinking about the Teres 265(320) with Shroder Model2 Arm or Origin Live Illustrious Arm, or VPI HR-X, or SME 20 with SME 5 Arm, or Origin Live table and arm. The budget is around $7000 (used or new).
For VPI HR-X, SME 20, and Origin Live, I can find some profesional reviews. For Teres, I did not find any profesional reviews, but some user reviews. And there are few A/B comparision reviews on Teres.
It will be greatly appreciated if anybody who A/B compared the above tables to give the information.
Any suggestion is welcomed.
Hanjiang
hzhu1920
Dear Crespo: You are right. But Doug is an active member of the " Teres Fan Club " and I thnink the official Teres spokesperson, because he always " jump " with this answer.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.
Raoul, I'm wondering if you would post your system? I would love to see it, after reading some of your responses. Sorry, I know this added nothing to the original thread, or topic at hand.
Doug,I guess ,by your logic,I should sell my speakers,with external crossover(requiring additional connections)and buy a one box design.Also,I would have to sell my two chasis(power supply inside second one)Rowland 8t,because of the additional connectors involved.Not to mention 2 box transports/dacs,2 box pre-amp line/phono-stages.REDICULOUS!!Boy,I hope all your cable runs are REAL SHORT!!

Yes a single run of cable is "technically" superior,but when you actually "DO" the testing you refer to,your comments are specious at best.Do you realize how many connections are in a set-up?Why not go and buy the Walker SST stuff.That should help you,as it supposedly aids connections and signal transfer.Not to mention that I have a friend who just installed the stuff to deleterious sonic results.He now is spending hours cleaning it off.Claims are empty unless qualified with real hands on.Have you actually owned a 2.2?I doubt it!Forget that you have friends who have one.If you don't own,and dial in a technical product like a tone-arm,or complex camera,you can't possibly know it!

Here's a really good tip for you,that I'm sure all of us have read about at some point.Why don't you solder all your connections.I have no doubt it would be a further improvement for you.We could go on forever,on this subject.Tubes needing sockets vs solid state,hardwiring speakercables etc.Do you bypass your little on/off lights for the additional 1/10 watt additional power.If you're going to do it,do it right!!

You're jabs at the 2.2 are your unverified "opinion",as I gather you are spewing forth your theory about the connections.I have owned both arms,as you know.Yhe "FACT" is that I've been able to get alot closer to what I think my records sound like on an arm like the 2.2,as opposed to a SLOPPILY MACHINED,but admittedly good(NOT GREAT)Tri-planer!!

Sorry to seem so emotional,but the additional connection bit you refer to on the 2.2(as though it's a poor design choice)is a real laugher!AND NO,you can't have any of my marshmellows!!!Now I'm going home,after the gym,and suiting up my armor!!
Larry,

I heard a 320 and another Teres which was part of "the Teres project- DIY." it all depends on whether you like the big/jet black sound they produce- if you are after that, then the Teres is very good. I just found them uninvolving.

Michael
Dear Sirspeedy: +++++ " Here's a really good tip for you,that I'm sure all of us have read about at some point.Why don't you solder all your connections.I have no doubt it would be a further improvement.. " +++++

For some time I have my audio system with out any single connector, everything were soldered ( including the speaker cables to the crossover ), yes there are some improvements. but is a " pain in the ass ": it is a monolithic system: you can't do any change of anything anytime you need or you want and if you have a failfure ( somewhere ) in the system that's is a " via crucis " to fix it. But Doug can try it.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.