Teres vs VPI, SME, Origin Live, etc.


I have Manley Steelhead Phono Pre VII and Berning ZH-270 Amp, and I ordered a pair of Merlin VSM-MX. The next step is to upgrade my Table and Arm. I am thinking about the Teres 265(320) with Shroder Model2 Arm or Origin Live Illustrious Arm, or VPI HR-X, or SME 20 with SME 5 Arm, or Origin Live table and arm. The budget is around $7000 (used or new).
For VPI HR-X, SME 20, and Origin Live, I can find some profesional reviews. For Teres, I did not find any profesional reviews, but some user reviews. And there are few A/B comparision reviews on Teres.
It will be greatly appreciated if anybody who A/B compared the above tables to give the information.
Any suggestion is welcomed.
Hanjiang
hzhu1920
Doug,I guess ,by your logic,I should sell my speakers,with external crossover(requiring additional connections)and buy a one box design.Also,I would have to sell my two chasis(power supply inside second one)Rowland 8t,because of the additional connectors involved.Not to mention 2 box transports/dacs,2 box pre-amp line/phono-stages.REDICULOUS!!Boy,I hope all your cable runs are REAL SHORT!!

Yes a single run of cable is "technically" superior,but when you actually "DO" the testing you refer to,your comments are specious at best.Do you realize how many connections are in a set-up?Why not go and buy the Walker SST stuff.That should help you,as it supposedly aids connections and signal transfer.Not to mention that I have a friend who just installed the stuff to deleterious sonic results.He now is spending hours cleaning it off.Claims are empty unless qualified with real hands on.Have you actually owned a 2.2?I doubt it!Forget that you have friends who have one.If you don't own,and dial in a technical product like a tone-arm,or complex camera,you can't possibly know it!

Here's a really good tip for you,that I'm sure all of us have read about at some point.Why don't you solder all your connections.I have no doubt it would be a further improvement for you.We could go on forever,on this subject.Tubes needing sockets vs solid state,hardwiring speakercables etc.Do you bypass your little on/off lights for the additional 1/10 watt additional power.If you're going to do it,do it right!!

You're jabs at the 2.2 are your unverified "opinion",as I gather you are spewing forth your theory about the connections.I have owned both arms,as you know.Yhe "FACT" is that I've been able to get alot closer to what I think my records sound like on an arm like the 2.2,as opposed to a SLOPPILY MACHINED,but admittedly good(NOT GREAT)Tri-planer!!

Sorry to seem so emotional,but the additional connection bit you refer to on the 2.2(as though it's a poor design choice)is a real laugher!AND NO,you can't have any of my marshmellows!!!Now I'm going home,after the gym,and suiting up my armor!!
Larry,

I heard a 320 and another Teres which was part of "the Teres project- DIY." it all depends on whether you like the big/jet black sound they produce- if you are after that, then the Teres is very good. I just found them uninvolving.

Michael
Dear Sirspeedy: +++++ " Here's a really good tip for you,that I'm sure all of us have read about at some point.Why don't you solder all your connections.I have no doubt it would be a further improvement.. " +++++

For some time I have my audio system with out any single connector, everything were soldered ( including the speaker cables to the crossover ), yes there are some improvements. but is a " pain in the ass ": it is a monolithic system: you can't do any change of anything anytime you need or you want and if you have a failfure ( somewhere ) in the system that's is a " via crucis " to fix it. But Doug can try it.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.
Michael
Which turntables do you consider to be involving? I'm not trying to bait you or anything, just want to know where you are coming from.

Cheers
Kenneth
Ken,

Rega, Well Tempered, Linn, SME, Roksan, VPI (some of their models), and the old Nottingham Spacedeck are tables that appeal to me. I don't really care what anyone thinks of any of these tables, but this is where I am coming from. To each their own is what I say.

Michael