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There's a lot more bass in a 6.5" driver than most of you think

One topic of discussion I often see new audiophiles touch on is whether to get larger speakers for more bass.

I usually suggest they tune the room first, then re-evaluate. This is based on listening and measurement in several apartments I’ve lived in. Bigger speakers can be nothing but trouble if the room is not ready.


In particular, I often claim that the right room treatment can make smaller speakers behave much larger. So, to back up my claims I’d like to submit to you my recent blog post here:

https://speakermakersjourney.blogspot.com/2020/01/the-snr-1-room-response-and-roon.html


Look at the bass response from those little drivers! :)


I admit for a lot of listeners these speakers won’t seem as punchy as you might like, but for an apartment dweller who does 50/50 music and theater they are ideal for me. If you’d like punchy, talk to Fritz who aligns his drivers with more oomf in the bass.


erik_squires
erik_squires OP
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Yes, mics can "hear" under 20Hz and visualize the measurements.
How does a "boomy" or "not boomy" infrasounds are visualized
in magnitude curves?


I can answer this question technically, but before I do, it seems to me that you feel like you are qualified make statements about the quality of bass, and the depth of the bass but I can't??
pirad
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Please answer technically. Anybody can make any statements on facts. I am not trying to be omniscient here, but prefer to separate facts from opinions.
erik_squires OP
16,046 posts
 
The answer is the same as "what is the problem you are trying to solve with a swarm?"


pirad
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Distrubuted bass addresses room modes, probably with more success than other solutions. Not sure what we are discussing here with respect to infrasounds (<20Hz). People can’t hear them, unless they are pure sine waves at big volumes. No concern for music, really. The movie theater experience of simulated earthquakes, explosions or thunderstorms is best served with bass shakers, like Clark Synthesis. There is also a niche in crowd control, where infasounds can be used to incapacitate people. A controversial and dangerous method, never really used in democracies (resonances in the respiratory tract that make breathing difficult).
erik_squires OP
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Distrubuted bass addresses room modes, probably with more success than other solutions.


Well, definitely not without it's own share of complexity and cost.

Not sure what we are discussing here with respect to infrasounds (<20Hz).

My statements about being able to get a sub flat to 16 Hz go back to something you said earlier:

The Swarm, when sealed, goes down to 18Hz


Meaning, again, a swarm is not the only solution to great bass in a room. I can solve the room mode problem, and get wonderful bass in the same scale as you claim for the Swarm with a single sub, bass traps and EQ.
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