Thiel Owners


Guys-

I just scored a sweet pair of CS 2.4SE loudspeakers. Anyone else currently or previously owned this model?
Owners of the CS 2.4 or CS 2.7 are free to chime in as well. Thiel are excellent w/ both tubed or solid-state gear!

Keep me posted & Happy Listening!
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tomthiel

Thank you very much for your synopsis of the 2.x models: their differences among themselves, benefits compared to the 3.x, your preferences and history with them, and why so many people like them.

Most of the followers of this thread don’t realize that I have known Tom from the days of the O3a, more than 30 years, from CES in both Las Vegas and Chicago. The Thiel room was one of my favorite every time, and Tom one of my favorite people to chat with. I have kept occasional contact with him ever since then, just to talk about the speakers. When he told me about his preference for the 2.x models, I could not resist collecting a CS2.0 and CS2.2 for myself, even though I still have never set them up to hear them. I have just been too enthralled with my O3a, CS3.5 and CS3.7, thinking I would miss them TOO MUCH if I moved them out to try the smaller ones.

Well, about 7 years ago, I became the exclusive dealer for Audio Note (UK) in the Los Angeles area. One of the Thiels had to go into storage to make room for a demo pair of AN/E speakers ($12,000/pair), and now I love them too. But then finally, when I moved back the CS3.5 into my primary listening room, my friends and I were amazed. What we all remembered as about the best sound we had ever heard (my Thiel CS3.5 system) was STILL among the VERY best we’ve ever heard. It is truly amazing that after all these years of my ownership, 20+ year old speakers demonstrate that the unique goals and successes of Jim Thiel still provide state-of-the-art sound, in these very specific aspects: imaging specificity, sound stage size, depth, resolution of subtle details, and presentation of very fine timbre and texture that approach the sound of truly live instruments and voices. The 30+ year old O3a, provide these magical characteristics as well. Since the CS3.5 proved themselves again, I have not moved AN speakers back into that room since. I bought a pair of CS3.7 speakers to put there, the CS3.5 are back in storage, and AN speakers populate the other rooms in my homes and retail audio salon. The Thiel O3a have never moved, by the way, and still sound awesome in my parents’ living room, where I have listened to them from the time they were current models. Yeah, that was when I was a college student, still living there.

Now, because of this thread, and all the love I have read about for the 2.x speakers, I have my CS2.0 pair (piano black) in the hallway, just about ready to insert them into one of my listening rooms, for the first time. My CS2.2 pair are DEFINITELY going to get the full Tom Thiel update treatment, and I will not be surprised if they take a permanent place in my life, along with the CS 3.7 in my living room that are not going anywhere either.
wajarette -

My 2.2's are with me until I die, or at least until Tom comes up with his upgrade.

I'd like my 3.5's to be with me as well, but that will depend on how good a replacement tweeter works (need three).  I love those speakers ..... heard the 3a's in Louisville while under development and bought the dealer demo pair in Burlington VT about 8 years later.

I understand your amazement.  I can't find speakers in dealer showrooms today that I like as well as these in total (well, Maggies excepted which I also once owned and wouldn't mind once again.)

Harry
Harrylavo
 
I have a few extra tweeters and midranges for Thiel O3a and CS3.5. I hesitate to sell any of them, because they are so difficult to find. If you love these speakers and have a few spare parts, would YOU sell them? So, I think we should set some prices, within this group of Thiel cognoscenti, that are not unreasonable to those of us who need a few, but also fairly representative of their difficulty to obtain. I would rather not take full responsibility for the high prices I am about to suggest, but here they are:

O3a tweeter: $300 each
CS3.5 tweeter: $250 each
CS3.5 midrange: $400 each

These are not my asking prices (yet), but my proposal for a group decision, based on what we know about their rarity. And these prices are for guarenteed working units, with maybe a little wrinkle or two in the tweeter dome or midrange dust cover, but no damage to them and excellent cone and surround quality (which can be replaced).

Now, if there are other, cheaper sources for exactly the same tweeters, please let us all know. The Audax/Polydax tweeters were standard parts, used by a number of speaker manufacturers, but still getting more rare all the time. But there are variations in mounting plate dimensions and in ohm impedance, that we have to be careful to get right, and the guarentee not to be DOA that we have to confirm.
Theilrules - the Chinese tweeter claims to be a D28 Dynaudio replacement.  Thanks for the specific information.

wajarette - I'll take a closer look at what's available on eBay.  Thanks.

Harry
wajarret -  Rob Gilliam told me he could sell me rebuilt original tweeters for the 3.5 for around $270-280 (can't remember precisely).  That helps set a ceiling I would think.

On the other hand, I'm going to buy one of the Chinese tweeters and if that IS a pretty good match, that would seem to set a lower match.  Right now Davidlouis Audio is selling them for $48 plus shipping.

Harry