Thiel Owners

@tomthiel 

Thanks so much for the additional info about the Benchmark amp in your system and room. I think my room is a little smaller than yours, which could affect the amp-speaker match a bit. My current amps are the PSA M700 monoblocks, which have plenty of power and sound really good, too. Your S300 is a lower powered stereo sibling of the M700, and I wondered how the CS3.5 works with the S300 compared to the Benchmark amp. 

I may not be remembering this correctly and it may not apply to the Benchmark amp anyway, but I thought that most stereo amps in bridge mode didn't handle lower impedance loads as well as the stereo version did (which could make it a less good match with the CS2.2). It also seems like the use of EQ down to 20 Hz with the CS3.5 could require quite a bit of juice from an amp, and the non-EQ'd CS2.2 wouldn't require as much power from any amp.

It would be fun to compare my M700s to the AHB-2 directly, but I remain more fascinated with how the new Atma-Sphere Class D amp might sound with my CS2.2s. The A-S amp uses GaN-FETs and is rated at 200 w/channel at 4 ohms. I won't be attending AXPONA next week, but I'll be looking for comments on the sound of the A-S amp at the show before I decide whether to try to demo any of these options.

Thanks again for all your input!  

Good Friday- ALL

DAC parings with Thiel 3.6s...

Trials and tribulation about DACs in my system and searching for input from you all. To date I’ve tried DacMagic 200m, Ayer Codex, Benchmark DAC3-B, Chord Hugo TT2, and a Bryston BDA-2. All being fed by a Bluesound Node gen 3 or Rasberry Pi via Cardas Clear (USB & Coax). Comparing to vinyl, all the DACs come across as very bright on the highs for my listening tastes.

So far the best sounding DAC has been feeding through the unit built into the Yamaha CD-S2100 utilizing USB or coax. It doesn’t over drive the bass or create piercing highs like all the previously mentioned DACs.

I’m starting to look in the multibit or R2Rs from here out I think perhaps giving Schiit or Denafrips a try. Maybe even searching for an older ML No36 or the like. I do realizing clocking/jitter can be an issue with earlier DACs. I’m getting the idea that the Sigma/Delta dac isn’t the way to go with my set up.

Oh sorry, using Mc C22 tube pre and MC462 amp feeding into the 3.6s, as a repeat the set up sounds excellent with vinyl and regular CDs (Yamaha). And as a side note I'm keeping the Bryston for the upstairs system as it does work well with the Anthem pre, amp, and Polk LSiM 705s.

@cascadesphil I have the first version of the tweeters in the 2.3s.  My room has wood paneling, so not the greatest listening area, but I have numerous sound treatment panels in the room, and a thick rug in front of the system.  I moved my Klipsch Quartets into my main system a few days ago just for fun and they are easier to listen to (less bright) than either my 2.3s or the 3.6s.

I hear (or read) repeatedly that Thiels are very revealing of the source and I have to agree.  With my Aqua La Voce DAC, there's very little of that hard edge, only on a few recordings, while with my vinyl setup things sound too bright with close to half the records I play.  Vinyl sounds great with my Quartets, my Harbeths, KEF Ref 1, and Stirlings.  I think both speakers are great, they just don't seem to be a good match with my room and system.

@duegi I have used an Aqua La Voce DAC in my system with the 3.6s and it sounded great.  They are too bright with my vinyl setup.  I haven't used my TEAC NT-505 with the 3.6s, but it is also very warm.  It uses the AK4497 DAC chips.  It's been discontinued and the new model uses a D/S chip, due to the fire at the AKM factory and probably sounds different.  If you can find a used one, it's very nice.  It's also a streamer, so you could ditch the Bluesound.  I would look at R2R DACs like MHDT Labs and others before Schiit.  I had a Bifrost in a second system and it was very good for the money, but did have some glare.  Things sounded much better and warmer after I moved the NT-505 into that system.