Tidal Speakers owners

Hi Karel!

What were the differences you are noticing the more you toe in? To me the tonalty of the sound changes as well as the soundstage.

In my case the speaker is around 80cm from the side walls that is why right now I prefer to toe them in a lot, with the speakers crossing just behind me. I would say around 35 degrees of toe in.

When I have them perpendicular to the back wall i get a more expansive soundstage but the side wall interferes more.

the sound is also more dense with the toe-in I use!

happy listening,

Mike

Hi Mike, mine are toed-in less, around 20 degrees. But I sit quite far, around 4.80m away, so the intersecting just behind head sounds about right in many cases. The speakers sit 2.35m apart (measured from center of drivers), 0.95m from side walls and 1.95m from rear wall (to back of speakers). I focus first in getting the best tonal density and mid bass definition, the soundstaging part then fall into place nicely with them totally disappearing.

Re the perpendicular 'location' as mentioned in the manual, my understanding is that it's meant to suggest best for both speakers to sit at equal distances (perpendicular line) to back wall rather than the perpendicularity (toe-in) of the speaker's cabinet 'position' itself.

Mike, I have not really tried to toe in much more than where my speakers are now (Contrivas are HEAVY to manoeuvre with). Where they are now is where the soundstage feels correct in width as well as depth for all sorts of different recordings from solitary poet with a guitar to jazz combo in a cellar or Yes's full menagerie of instruments, and from a Fazioli to full assault philharmonics. That indeed was the main difference with less or no toe-in. Also, my speakers still have non ceramic woofers and the correct toe-in is where the "crease" (grossly exaggerated term used only to get the idea across) between materials disappeared. Importantly, as you guys already pointed out, there is also the saturation of the sound that unmistakably falls in place.

I am toed in at exactly 15ºs which intersects the center line just behind me. I noticed that the Sunrays at CES were also at about 15ºs.

It is the realism of the sound stage that strikes me as enhanced with the "right" toe in.

There are at least one pair of Sunrays and one pair of Contriva Diacera SEs for sale, which surprises me.

Finally, I ordered my own Tidal Piano Cera speakers...
I am planning to drive them with the Sovereign Director/Glory using my Weiss Medea as a source. Will probably upgrade to a Stylos Sys USB Dac soon... Cables will be the Argento Flow...