Tidal vs ATC


Thinking about my end game speaker and seriously considering one from either brand. On the Tidal camp looking at either the Contriva G2 or Agoria and on the ATC camp the SCM150 or SCM300.
Any thoughts on this battle? The tidal I know is a truly amazing speaker. The contriva g2 is the best I've heard and has an amazing finish.  But I see insane praise from ATC for being a very accurate and extremely well made speaker. Only issue is I have no local dealers for ATC in canada. Maybe after the pandemic is over I'll fly to USA to hear them... but honestly even that makes me a bit nervous with all this going on.
Any thoughts?
smodtactical
It was at RMAF in 2013, so it was likely G1. Quite impressive, I must say. They were not in a huge room, so they had to moderate the level. 

Another thought for you to consider; I reviewed the also prodigious Legacy Audio Valor Speaker System for Dagogo.com. I would classify it also as a "will not take a back seat" type of speaker. It also would easily fill your large listening space. Like the Sunray, it's the designer's best effort at SOTA. You will get quite a bit of insight into it from my review. Do not be thrown off because it was reviewed in a smaller room. This is a speaker that can do justice to big environments. I have heard the larger Legacy speakers in the large ballrooms of shows and they have no problem generating appropriate sound to flood the space.  

I especially enjoyed the enormous 15" mid-woofer/midrange coaxial driver. I have heard nothing like it, and the utter ease of such a midrange presentation is alluring. The fact that it is coaxial is also unusual. The Valor does imaging quite like a full range speaker, something that I have not seen in too many big floor standing speakers. Though I did not get to hear them in direct comparison, I believe the Valor would be able to compete well with the Sunray in terms of LF, both in quality and extension.  

You may have your mind made up, but I thought I would mention it as there is a dealer, Audio Excellence, in Ontario. At least might be able to hear it if you have not previously. Legacy is also very good about working with customers to do custom orders. You may enjoy reading the several articles I did for Dagogo.com in regard to the development of my Legacy Whisper speakers. They were taken from stock to being given upgraded internal wiring with upgraded caps, and finally reworked entirely to become what I call "crossover speakers", that is, fitted with 12 binding posts allowing for use as 1. fully passive with internal crossover and as little as two channels of amplification with Triwiring (can be configured that way without the Wavelet DAC/pre/room correction),  2. Hybrid with active x-over bass with four or six channels of amplification, or 3. Fully active x-over and six channels of amplification. The last two options use the Wavelet DAC/pre/correction. The room correction would likely be very important in your installation.

I have had these speakers with four 15" bass drivers each running with a pair of Legacy XTREME XD Subs, for a total of twelve 15" bass drivers. That proved plenty of easeful LF, at least for me. So, that is yet another option, the Whisper with subs. No problem generating enormous sound, however it doesn't have quite the openness of the big midrange of the Valor. If I was not limited in terms of cost, I would go for the Valor. As it is, I try to simulate some of the same characteristics with the Whisper and subs.  :) 
I got the ATC 150 actives. But, sorry to say, since some time they stand silent while they can not pull me away from the combination of Quested v3110 monitors with svs sb-16 subs (and a RME dac).

What you might forget in the discussion is that the bigger ATC pro speakers (from 100's and up), they come in a box yes, but are intended for soffit mounting in very well acoustically treated rooms. 

Placed in a normal room they need to be tamed through dsp (that goes of course for all big speakers with massive bass).


Hrm maybe the Tidal is a better choice then since its suited to true listening and not necessarily analysis?
Sunray g1 or contriva g1 are both really interesting choices. Either way probably getting a ton of value.
@douglas_schroeder  I've read lots of good things about the sunray but seen at least 1 prior owner who really hated them and said they were awful. So it makes me a little nervous. Another option is to wait until I can get a used or demo current gen for a good price. Actually there is a current gen agoria on for sale but they are asking too much ($65k). I also am looking for only piano black.
I have used active ATCs for about 15 years. The first pair a classic 50s then anniversary 50s - I now have a pair of the tower 100s with the anniversary amp packs I purchased as a special order, together with a C6 sub. I have not heard the Tidals. I got them initially because they are cost effective with built in amps and active speakers makes sense to me.
I have a dedicated room which has been carefully acoustically treated. No problem with bass - I had Ben Lilly from ATC come over to fit the new tweeters - he recalibrated the speakers to match the new tweeters he also  measured the room response. The graph showed a pretty flat line  from 20Hz to 19kHz - he said the the room measured as well as a good studio.
They are very accurate, dynamic with excellent imaging - they respond to a high quality input signal, showing up any deficiencies in the source. The music sounds very real, a friend played his saxophone along with an art pepper track it was pretty seamless.
They sound good with any sort of music, the better the recording the  more real they sound.
Would be best to hear them yourself though.