@tomic601,
Thanks for getting the joke. I knew well that you might actually be more knowledgeable than me when I wrote that...lol.
To Buy or to DIY, here is my question
If I buy the speakers that appear closest to what I desire
they are $11k new and $8k used.
If I buy the raw speakers and build it
the speakers alone are $2.2k.
That is a 3 way system.
Still must add costs of XOs and cabs.
Assume the total custom build cost would be about $3k.
The $8k speakers used are Proac D40Rs.
The raw components would be from ScanSpeak and SB acoustics
and include 10" woofer, 4.5" Mid and a planar ribbon tweeter.
MadiSound provides XO advice.
Comments???
OK! DIY! I have now rebuilt a half dozen serious pairs of speakers. From the 4 foot high towers by 1970s Bose Corporation to AR-3s and a pair of Advent's, both by Henry Kloss. There are others that I call my 'Zombie' line as all are really fine boxes that I strip of everything. The cheap junk you can pull out of these old masters is surprizing and mostly way too cheap. With classic cabinets I have all the data I need to proceed. What I do is so far superior to what I have found in units like the 7speaker Sansui frat house monsters with poorly insulated 28 AWG cheap copper wire not fit for the lights I put on my boat trailer. My last began with a full real wood new veneer on a Henry Kloss Advent that was vinyl on MDF. I treated the vinyl with bleach and painted with primer for wood glue to hold. Many coats of Total-Boat water based 'varnish'. The veneer was Birch and finished in a light shade. New frames were cut for the screens and new screening was applied. The interior was fully lined with the sound absorbing 'egg crate' style damping. I mark out where the plate for the crossover will go and I painted 2 or 3 coats of Acoust-X on the surface to protect and pad the crossover. I put solid brass fittings cut and plated with gold with a mounting plate for speaker wire termials. Multi-able with banana plug fittings. From the terminals I connect in the box between terminal and crossover connection with 12 AWG premium speaker wire. I use the same 12 AWG to connect crosssover with Mid and Woofer. This time I used 20AWG pure solid silver speaker wire from crossover to the tweeters. ($80 for 6 ft and worth every penny). The wiring alone is a major step up from all but the ten grand or higher priced commercial offers. And even some of them! I installed pre-made Eminence 3-way crossovers rated for 200 watts. This went on to feed planar ribbon tweeters, an 8" Emenince mid and a 12" Community VERIS series woofer. Got a deal on the woofers and all drivers for under $500.00 Another $75 for each crosssover and $3.75 per foot of speaker wire sans the silver.
My first real effort some time ago taught me a lot about what goes on in a speaker cabinet. I had gone to Radio Shack and bought pairs of mids and woofers to fit the old Bose Inter-Audio 4s. Got all four drivers for about $50. That sounded better but the overall sound was bad. I replaced the tweeters. Still bad. I got new Mids. Better, not good. Now with some experience I returned to Parts Express and put all B & C components in after stripping the box again. These are a highly articulated set of speakers and only took about 4 rounds to get to what sounded just right. And if I had $20,000 each for speakers, where would they go? I love the big Focals, but that is not 'home style' listening and I would need another $100,000 for amps and speaker wires. And then a gun to keep everybody the hell out of here when I want to listen to some Yusef Lateef jazz or any and all of Joni Mitchell's catalogue. I will take it to my 'bunker' (aka man cave but I don't live in a cave) that is just the right size to sip a bourbon and burn a Michigan joint and be blissed out with what I have managed to 'put together' and now own. And with the money I did not spend I bought a new Rega 6 turntable and a new CD player and a Vincent 701 phono pre-amp upgraded with a rare Brimar tube. Just got my copy of the vinyl set from Frank Zappa and a release of what is called his last concert in the U.S. before failing health and death. I think it is late enough to head to my 'studio bunker'. The folk tune I remember about "...You got to walk that lonesome valley, you got to walk it by yourself; ain't nobody gonna walk it for you, you gotta walk it by yourself! DIY!!!
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@sandthemall thx, I am just trying to be a perpetual student… I think everyone should DIY some audio gear… best to all jim |
Okay time for some replies:
OldSchool- I built a dozen Owens Corning 703 2' x 4' panels 3 years ago. Nearly cried when I heard the improvement. Then again if I take my gear outside to the patio and listen, well I just want to move out there permanently.
Re all Altec Model 19 proponents. Agreed a great speaker. I owned the Altec Maestro 500s. Basically the 19 in a pro version. Modded them up and moved on.
If I build anything it will have only the best components and drivers. The XO will be designed by someone way better that most. Like Danny Richie. No-Rez inside and braced every which way.
Undecided whether to port or not.
Jonk & Phus- My goal is for the speaker to double as a toaster. Could not agree more with your perspectives.
Rustybut & Drumax- Funny you should include the Linkwitz photo from November in Heraldsburg. I was in the room. I liked the effect but those speakers have no presence in my book. Also too hideous to be allowed out in public.
Thanks for the support!!!
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@gdaddy1 Thanks so much for taking the time to share your great tips. |