Tube integrated with real bass. Does it exist?

Cary CAD 120s amp, maybe bigger woofers is what you really need.

Define "real bass". Don't most tube integrated amps have it? At least if used in a smaller room and/or with suitable speakers?

The problem is more likely that there are relatively few speakers that can do bass really well with most tube integrated amps. Ones that can are likely very big and very expensive.

When the amp has limitations, the speaker has to take up the slack (easy load, high efficiency, etc.). That's the case with tube amps.

With SS amps its the opposite. Speakers can be smaller and less efficient, which the evidence indicates is what most people prefer.

Doesn't make one better than the other necessarily... just different "paradigms" as they say.

I think the PrimaLuna Dialogue Premium HP (high-powered) would do the trick for you. You can use EL34, KT88, KT120 and KT150 tubes and run it into ultra-linear mode or triode. It will do 96W X 2 into 8 ohms running ultra-linear with KT150 tubes.

I have heard "real" bass with ARC, ROGUE, and VAC integrateds driving PSB, Magnepan, Sonus Faber and other popular speaker lines at least in a modest not large showroom. 80w/ch + or so needed. No low pipe organ notes in any demos I've heard though so can't speak to those.

Those are the three lines I have heard and like most that I would go for. I'm sure there are others.

I bet a lot of people would like to see Atmasphere offer an integrated.l I think I asked Ralph about this once and he said it was a possibility.

I'm very satisfied with the bass I am getting from my VAC Sigma 160i integrated amp driving my 90 dB, 5 ohm speakers.

It is not as earth rattling as some bass I've heard from some large SS amps from the likes of Krell, Plinius, etc. However, to me it sounds more real or natural. Sometimes I think some of those SS monster amps emphasize the bass region, which will please some, but it is a coloration nonetheless.

Cheers,
John