Tube Phono with Tube Integrated Amp?


what are the drawbacks (if any) of this setup?  

i recently acquired a VPI Prime (amazing) with a Soundsmith Zephyr MKIII.   using a ProJect Tube Box S (which was a phenomenal upgrade for my previous ProJect Carbon table).  right now, running this through a vintage Kenwood KA-9100, powering Elac UniFi's bookshelf speakers. 

i'm looking to build a 2 channel system that i can grow with, so please disregard the amp/speakers for now.  I've read great things about the Manley Chinook and the Allnic H1201.   in the event that i upgrade to a tube integrated amp in the future, is there any downside?
i've read on this forum that a tube phono is better paired with a solid state amp.  



mjb87062017
First off, it’s bs to say generally that a tube phono goes better into a SS integrated. Second, the Chinook is actually a hybrid, with SS step up into a tube MM stage. That part has never really been advertised about the Chinook.
"First off, it’s bs to say generally that a tube phono goes better into a SS integrated. Second, the Chinook is actually a hybrid, with SS step up into a tube MM stage."

Mulveling- your system sounds great just looking at the pics..bravo!
I can only dream of having a system at that level.

I was wondering if anyone would tell it like it is. Although what's "best" is subjective, why do so many reviews of SS units say..."the unit sounds like a tube unit"? Maybe a very good designed SS amp is nicer than a so-so tube amp?

Someone can check me on this- Isn't there a FET in the 1st gain stage of the Chinook? I've demoed one in my rack next to my existing tubed phono, which feeds the tube line stage and tube amp(oh no..it not SS!)




Seems to me that hybridity is the sweet spot for a lot of designers. My Doshi (tube) phono stage has a SS step up as its first gain stage, like the Chinook. My Art Audio Jota amp is a classic (at this point?) SET tube amp, but it has transistors for power regulation, and the output transformers have a lot do with its sound and its flexibility regarding speakers.  So point is, the SS/tube debate can really be overblown. 

I think the OP is right in noticing that it's a "thing" to pair a tube preamp with a solid state amp, but I think the conventional wisdom there is oversimplified. 


Jolly, Where do you read that it’s a "thing" to pair a tube preamplifier with a solid state amplifier? I’m just curious, because, as I pointed out, unless you know what you’re doing, it can actually be a bad "thing". If one wants to do it, one needs to know the input impedance of the ss amplifier and the output impedance of the tube preamp. It is not unusual for a solid state amplifier to have an input Z of 10K ohms. If that’s the case, make sure that the tube unit provides an output Z of less than 1000 ohms, the lower below that, the better.  If the SS amplifier has an input Z of 25K ohms or higher, you're usually on safe ground to use a tube preamp.

Lots of "tube" phono stages use an FET or a bipolar transistor at the phono input to boost gain for an LOMC cartridge. So what? This makes it unnecessary to use a SUT with such cartridges. I don’t take this practice as an a priori indictment of the phono stage.
@lewm - no disagreement here. It's just something I've heard bandied about as a little 'factoid' among people into audio, and not just online. Maybe it's a generational thing? guys that are younger than me speak knowledgeably about getting the benefits of tubes in the preamp, and the power and "cleanness" (goes the story) of SS in the power amp. I don't actually think it's true, I'm just reporting. (Btw I read your post on impedance matching with great interest. And as I said, my phono stage has a FET MC input, and I ain't complaining).