Upgrading a CD/SACD player with integral DAC


I’ve described my system on site before and it was pointed out the CD/SACD player was the weak link in the system. I’m not in disagreement, and would like to start researching an upgrade that would be commensurate with the rest of the system.

Here is what I have at present:

Marantz SA 8005 CD player with integral DAC
VPI Classic 2 turntable with an Ortofon 2M Black cartridge
Luxman L507 uX Mk2 Integrated Amplifier
Magico A3 speakers
Hydra Denali 6000S Power Conditioner

I have only Redbook CD’s, no SACDs but it would be nice to retain that capability. It would also be nice to retain an integral DAC, although at a higher price point maybe you would advise on getting a separate DAC. I’d rather avoid doing that if possible, as that would mean having to add more cables that would detract from the overall budget. But let me know what you think on that score. I have no plans to add any other components, or to stream music, so that doesn’t need to enter the equation. I listen to mostly fifties jazz and Rock ’n Roll and R&B, among other things, if that is at all relevant. I want to buy new, and not Chinese manufactured products.

So what CD players would you recommend looking into that would be similar in quality to the rest of the system. And what if any sonic improvements might I look forward to with your recommended upgrade. I purposely did not mention price point as I don’t know what price point would put the CD player into the performance range of the rest of the system components. You were all were very helpful to me choosing the rest of the system components, especially the amp and speakers. So I’d appreciate, and am looking forward to your recommendations and guidance on this selection. If there’s any more information you need, please let me know. Thanks

Mike


skyscraper
Well, they listed another open box Marantz Ruby KI CD player at Music Direct for $800 off list, so I took the plunge. Hopefully it will sound significantly better than my Marantz SA-8005. I was checking on the price of the Luxman D-05u, but Music Direct had it listed as no longer available, so I took another look at the Ruby KI on their site.. The 20% off on the Ruby’s list price was simply too hard to pass by. Now I’ve got to figure out how to sell the SA-8005. Thanks for all your help and sharing a lot of good ideas, And so abruptly ends another hi-fi shopping adventure, hopefully my last for a while. I wonder how long it will take for the Ruby to burn in and show it’s true colors. Any guesses? Pettyofficer said it took quite a while. My Magico A3's are only now starting to reveal their true identity and I've had them since this past Spring.  Take care all and again thanks so much. I'm still going to to find one of those R2R DACS to listen to as they piqued my interest too. 

Mike
Congrats skyscraper, sounds like you got a good deal. I'm interested to know how the Ruby compares to your 8005 as well
skyscraper

Nice score! I am looking forward in reading about the comparison between Ruby and 8005.  Happy Listening!

Thank you sebrof and jafant. Once the new Ruby CD/SACD gets burnt in a bit I'll let you all know how it's doing in contrast with the 8005. I sure hope it sounds better. 

Mike
Hello Skyscraper,

     I would say from a 100-150 hours of burn in. Later on, you can still get an R2R Dac and have multi-options of 11.2 Mghz up sampling of SACD, Multi-Channel SACD, same with CD, plus the Ruby digital out to your new R2R Dac. You would have on board and separate dacs. Why be mutually exclusive if you could play a wide range of formats? The optical drive on the Ruby is very robust and one of the best ones that Marantz makes. I know that I should turn off those long blue lights on each side of the facia, but they look so damn cool. Even with them on it still sounds great to me. Okay, back to being an audiophile, I will turn them off. Let me know how it works out for you. I am certain that you will be pleasantly surprised. 
     I should mention a word about universal players ( SACD, BLUE-RAY AUDIO, DVD-AUDIO ). It is well known that audio noise is generated by the video processor. This happens even when the VP. isn't receiving a signal. Even DVD-AUDIO and BLUE-RAY AUDIO project HD images onto the monitor for album cover, song selection, etc. Some of the more recent Pioneer universal players have a function for shutting off the video processor, while playing audio disks. Does it help? I leave that up to everyone else's experiences. HDMI still combines the audio and video signals into a tightly wound cable. Does the audio only HDMI output help? I am certain that all of these considerations went into the design of  the Ruby, by making a multi-channel audio only SACD, CD Player. A display screen is a far cry from the extreme high frequency hash of a full blown 4K BLUE-RAY Video Processor. I have heard this issue mntioned by a few other high end audio designers. However, I am certain that there are many who don't consider it a problem. I have heard many great tunes from various universal players. Maybe the difference is miniscule, and based on subjective preferences.