Van Den Hul Grail Vs Grail SE

Dear @jakesnak : When an audiophile, as you, is looking for that kind of quality level in a phono stage means that owns " thousands " ( or at least hundreds. ) of LPs and 1-2 top LOMC cartridges along TT and tonearm in the same league.

The Grail is a very good stand alone unit and in its price range and quality exist other alternatives that maybe you would like to look for.

Which your analog rig including the phono stage in use and your MUSIC/sound reproduction priorities? if you disclose it we can give you a better advises.

Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R. 

I will stand with jackesnac- anyone done the demo of this phono stage ?

I will never ask the opinion of any gear on Audiogon ever again. I appreciate varyat and rauliruegas chiming in. Some words of advice, ones audio gear, our car, or home, does not hold one iota of importance. BTW, I have a 1993 Ford Ranger! I also like to spend some time in Europe, what an elitist!  I use this forum to learn, expand, and broaden my scope into this wonderful passion. However, to base a persons motive from a question is nothing more than ignorance.  There is a huge circuitry difference between the Grail and the Grail SE  please forgive me to even think of inquiring about stupid expensive gear! I go far enough back to have had Phase Linear, Empire Turntable, Revox Reel to Reel (made in Switzerland model) and the likes when that was considered top shelf at one time. While in the Army one could purchase this gear at a fraction of its worth. So please enjoy the music with what ever gear you may have and keep your moronic opinions to yourself...

My apologies jakesnak! I was just in a grumpy mood when I posted. I have removed my three posts.

Thanks for that roberjerman! Hoping the thread will get back on track as I was following with great interest.