Vandersteen 2ce sigs? Beginner needs guidance.


I'm brand new to the Audiogon community, and am so grateful to have found such a fantastic source for thoughtful opinions and information for audiophiles. I am trying to decide on speakers in the 1-2k range for a system I am putting together. This is intended to be my first acquisition in what will become a long-term hi-fi system that I will use for mainly music (85%)and movies on the weekend (15%). After extensive research, I am leaning toward Vandersteen 2ce sigs, as they are by nearly all accounts an excellent audiophile entry point speaker, particulary at the used pricing I'm seeing here on Audiogon. My setup will go into a dedicated 16'x 20' media room, which will probably be oriented along the long wall (i.e., I will have 16' to work with). I listen mainly to alternative and classic rock (e.g., beatles, pink floyd, radiohead) but also to more subdued genres including folk, accoustic, bluegrass, ambient and jazz. I am also looking for a strong solid-state two channel amp in the $600-1000 range that I can use to drive these speakers, and which can also become a long-term part of my setup. I'll run the amp through my current Marantz sr7300 until I can afford a better preamp. I was nearly decided on a Rotel 1080, but am willing to hear what everyone thinks about this. Finally, I listened yesterday to the Thiel 1.6s, which I expected to like. I instead came away feeling they sounded incedibly clean and airy, but overly clinical and somewhat dry. Further, they had nowhere near the soundstage, or imaging capability of the new LSA speaker from DK Design group, which I A/B'ed them against. The Theils were on a full Macintosh setup. So my questions are: Given my tastes and reaction to the Thiels, should I still be considering the Vandersteens? What other speakers should I be considering? And am I off-base in pairing the Rotel amp with my mains? Are there other well-priced two channel solid state amps I should be considering? Thanks very much. -Jonathan
pneumatized
I got advice when I put together my first system. It was good advise. I had Allison speakers that I teamed with a Parasound used HCA-1500A for 400.00 or try a HCA-1000A for 300.00. I can't remember the pre but it would cost in the 150.00 range. For the money you can't beat Parasound! Used Parasound equip. in good shape is also going to hold it's value so when the upgrade bug hits (and it will hit)there is min. loss.
Cheers, Greg
Parasound is a good recommendation. I would also look for a SimAudio Celeste W-4070SE or W-4125SE... or a Moon W-3 if you can spring for it. That is, if you are still in love with the Vandys (you don't mention if you have heard them, though). From the small experience I have of both, I would think that if you found Thiels on the dry and clinical side, the Vandersteens are indeed more up your street. The SimAudio amps would drive both.

If I were you, though, I would keep my expenses down now as much as I could, so as to be able to afford that preamp upgrade sooner. A good front end will make all the difference to your setup. In fact, is a quality solid-state integrated amp out of the question right now?
I had my 2ce sigs powered by a Rotel 980bx and it was not a great match. The rotels I have used all added some grain to the upper mids which was annoying when listening to classical. I switched to an Aragon and the improvement was not subtle. If you like alternative and classic rock, make sure you get a preamp with tone controls, you will need them!
My first suggestion for a beginner is to check the archives. Not knowing your budget, makes recommendations difficult. I'm a big fan of McCormack gear with Vandy's!