Thank you to all who responed; I did consider upgrading to the 2ce sigs. Is there a difference between the standard 2ce and the signatures??.... As far as the Virgo II's that might be the ticket considering that I have actually wanted to purchase them for the last four years. I always thought they were too expensive, even used. I know they are now designated a "classic", but I wonder if they might be somewhat "over the hill" In addition, any used V-2's are going to be at least 4 years old and electronic and physical condition is always a concern.... The Druids were a recent consideration, especially since you can buy them from the factory used if they have a returned pair. Unfortunately, I was informed by a member who owned and then sold them that he thought they were overrated. In addition, I never liked speaker companies that don't provide easy access to their products by demonstrating them in a store. Having them shipped in with the possiblity of returning them is a pain in the butt.... Finally, when I originally auditioned the IC's, I was told (and also misinformed) by the salesman that the 2ce's used the same tweeter which cooled down my interest in them. I later found out the tweeter is different. One of my major criticism of the IC's is the highs are somewhat limited and can sound edgy and even ragged. I originally was driving them with a Musical Fidelity X-150, then switched back to my main electronics of Aragon and Conrad Johnson, that provided some improvememt, but not enough to make me want to keep them permanently.... Again, thanks to all!! Jim