Want to upgrade my cartridge from 2m blue to black

No, the Ortofon black stylus cannot be used with the blue cartridge body. This according to the Ortofon website.

I think you have no idea what you’re talking about, no matter what stated on the Ortofon website, here is a comparison chart of all models in 2M line. The difference is cartridge inductance (700mH for Blue and 630mH for Black), 1db higher channel separation for Black and 0.5mV higher output for Blue.

Another user also commented about it:

The Black stylus can be swapped into any of the 2M bodies the difference is that the "better" ones gets selected for the Bronze and Black - the runts for the Red and Blue. The electrical specs are listed as 1.2kOhm for the Bronze and Black - 1.3kOhms for the Red and Blue. @pbnaudio 

@big_greg

Common sense is that a good table with an entry level cartridge will sound better than an entry level table with a good cartridge.

This is BS and i already explained how big is the improvement of the Stanton 881s mkII instead of the Ortofon 2M Red on the same cheap turntable called Pro-Ject Carbon. I’ve heard it myself, did you ever tried just to swap a cartridge ? Or you’re always buying a new turntable for each cartridge ?

Entry level cartridge can not sound better on more expensive turntables, cartridge pick up the signal from the record, not from the turntable. A cartridge rides in the record groove. Turntable just spin the record. If a person has just $700 for upgrade why do you advice a new turntable for the same shitty cartridge ?

We can talk about new turntable with much better tonearm if the budget is $2000, but not a $700 (the stylus replacement is cheaper than $700 anyway).

For a better sound a person can upgrade cartridge, turntable, tonearm, phono stage, wires, speakers and to make room treatment ... but this is not the case of this topic !

We can start from room treatment for anyone, but in this topic the OP just looking for a new cartridge or stylus and what you’re posting here is nonsense.

Of course a new stylus with better profile will be an improvement for any good working turntable. And Shibata stylus is an improvement over Elliptical stylus. All he need to do is to buy a STYLUS from the top model for his cartridge body. This is the quickest and most cost effective solution for his system at the moment.

bsmg

As I describe above, any of the 2M styli is mountable on the two "different" body types - which physically are the same.  The "differences" are electrical, the "better" ones go to the Bronze/Black series the "lesser" ones to the Red/Blue

Take a look

https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/4923#&gid=1&pid=16

https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/4923#&gid=1&pid=17

The "Difference" between the Red/Blue - Bronze/Black is the 2M logo red vs Gold SilkScreen, and it sounds fantastic :-)

One Caveat when working on the 2M series, be very careful pulling the leads of the pins, a slight design flaw with them is that they are smooth so if the clips are too tight - the pins can pull out of the body destroying the cartridge.

Good Listening

Peter

I will stick with what the Ortofon engineers have published; you buy the ticket and take the ride. chakster states I have no idea what I'm talking about "no matter what the Ortofon site says" and then refers to a comparison chart from the Ortofon site. I have that chart myself since I have a bronze cartridge. Electrical specifications are separate from physical attributes......maybe the pole pieces in the black and bronze are not the same as in the blue and red. Or there could be a dozen other differences in physical attributes. But I don't know what I'm talking about.....I used to know one thing, but I forgot it. 

This is BS and i already explained how big is the improvement of the Stanton 881s mkII instead of the Ortofon 2M Red on the same cheap turntable called Pro-Ject Carbon. I’ve heard it myself, did you ever tried just to swap a cartridge ? Or you’re always buying a new turntable for each cartridge ?

Did you read what I wrote?  I own the same turntable the OP has and have put a really nice cartridge on it (along with other upgrades - an acrylic platter and Project Speed Box)- the Nagaoka MP500, Nagaoka's $700 top of the line MM cart.  I also owned a Music Hall MMF 5.1 and even with an entry level cartridge ($49 Audio-Technica AT95) it sounded better than the 2.2.  It's actual experience, not stuff I'm making up as you appear to be doing, since you don't seem to have any actual experience with the turntable being discussed.