What comes after Harbeth 30.1s?


A few weeks ago, I created a post where I was asking for advice to help a family friend create a home office system on a $6-7K budget. He ended up buying a VTL I-85 integrated amp which he really loves. After searching for speakers, he really liked my Harbeth M30.1s. He eventually bought my speakers but was going to pay in October. Unfortunately, he has had some unexpected expenses and won’t be able to pay me. So the speakers will be back in my possession next weekend.

The problem is that during this time, I started researching my next set of speakers. Of course, a safe bet was to stick with what I know and buy another pair of 30.1s whenever they pop up in the used market. Now that I will be getting them back, I’m still wrestling with the idea whether I should try something different. At this time, I’m only looking to buy used and not spend much more than what I can sell the 30.1s for. And to be honest, I will only be switching for the sake of trying a new flavor. I really like the 30.1s and something tells me that I might come to regret the decision. This speaker does pretty much everything right for my tastes and music preferences. Okay, if you put a gun to my head and force to me to share just one thing I wish was better, it would be a more airy presentation and little bit more open on the top. But otherwise, it’s hard to find fault with this speaker.

My room is 12 x 13 with almost 20 foot ceilings. Just like my friend, I’m limited on positioning options -- I can only pull out the speakers from the front wall by a foot at most. Another restriction (spousal commandment) is that I have to sell the 30.1s first to obtain the funds for the next purchase. So I won’t be able to buy something else, compare, and resell the one I don’t like as much. Secondly, I only want to buy used and well-known brands. The idea is that whenever the next upgrade itch strikes, I should be able to sell the speakers without losing more than 10-15%. And the final (whew!) restriction is that I have to be able to drive them with a tube integrated amp. I’m planning to buy a Qualiton a20i next month. This is the smaller brother for a50i which I also own.

So what do you guys think? Is this an ill-conceived, wrong-headed idea? Feel free to talk me out of it :)

If not, I would love to hear from people who have moved from 30.1s to another speaker in similar (or lesser) price range and are happy with their decision. An obvious next step is to move up to 30.2, but I’m not sure if it’s worth paying an extra $1000 or so. Or maybe it is that much better? C7ES3 is another option, but I fear it might be a little too much on the warm/lush side with difficult to tame bass especially when placed so close to the wall.

Another speaker I would love to try is the Fritz Carrera BE, but again I don’t want to buy new and I don’t see them in the used market that often. I know they have a 30-day return policy but that’s not the point. Knowing myself, I would probably end up selling them after a year or two, and don’t want to take the depreciation hit.

Proac Response D2 is another option, but I fear that it might be too forward for my taste, especially in a smaller room. If someone owns one and disagree, please chime in :)

Thanks in advance for your valuable advice!


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spendor definitely overshot the mark with original d series, tweeters were simply too hot, and thus the .2 versions came to market soon thereafter... i have not heard the 7.2 nor 9.2 as yet, trust they are dialed down some to regain a more typical spendor tonal balance --- folks who want an inert, zippy 'ultra hifi' speaker like a top focal or magico, that's what they would buy
I went from 30.1 to tannoy arden and my room is 7mx5m x3. 40m tall... Speakers 2m from back wall and 1.3 side... Golden rule but an idea might be something that works in the corner or an electrostatic if space and spousal happiness more important in the balance. 
Thanks for the great suggestions, everyone. To those suggesting M40.x, of course I'm aware that these are probably the endgame speakers for many, including myself. But please remember this is for my study, i.e. it is a secondary system for me with less budget allocation. I've tried the SHL5+ in my study and they simply don't work. So I don't see how 40s are going to work. Secondly, even if they did, I'm not going to spend a lot of money for the home office setup. I do plan to upgrade from SHL5+ to 40.x at some time in the future, but that's for my main system.

I also understand that to get 'better' sound, I probably need to move up the price bracket. But given that this is my secondary system, I'm not too keen on sinking too much $$ into it. I mean it's not like I'm dissatisfied with 30.1 in any way. It's a great speaker and suits my tastes in music quite well. I was really looking for a different flavor more than anything else really.

I will look more closely at Spendor but not going to rush my decision. If a used pair of Fritz Carrera Be were to pop up in the used market, I might give it a shot as well. Until then, I will continue to enjoy the 30.1s.



When I was figuring audio things out, Skip was kind enough to let me home addition 30.2, P3esr, and Rosso Pienza. Of the bunch, my favorite happened to be the Pienza. All have a really sweet top end but the Rosso has the lower end in spades. I really loved the little Harbeth though. With the right music (and it's lots) they are a gem. Can certainly see why there are a lot of Harbeth fans. Gotta have a proper listen to those Rosso for sure. 

@arafiq,

Until then, I will continue to enjoy the 30.1s.


M30.1s for a second system?
A wise decision.

You should count yourself fortunate; my current second system features a pair of plastic egg shaped Sony speakers!