What is this........midrange bloom??


I started back into high end audio about a year ago. Was able to get my system up in running initialy....after hours of breakin the new tubes(300B's) came up in my VAc70/70....Wow....I could sit on my sofa about ten feet a way...played the EMC Trio Medievel folk song CD and the energy engulfed my head....like a rush or ?. To make a long story short I purchased Vac 140's and switched my old NBS master speaker cable to longer Master IV's. To complicate thinks I have upgraded everything else....I do not have that wrap around your head thing anymore....this was a moderate high levels.

I recently tried a different digital cable fron my transport to dac and got a good hint of this sound quality....so I am know using a NBS statement IC from pre to amp.....After all the changes I still think the endorfin like rush was attributed too my old master speaker cables.

Is this quality....Bloom ?? desirable or is it over the top and actually a fault....My brother really liked the sound and now buggs me to find a way to reproduce it again.
wavetrader
Wavetrader

Wow I was just looking at your system. I think you need larger speakers in that room to breath out a little bloom.

Just kidding here. I would go with smaller speakers, even a nice monitor speaker. To get that sound staging you like you will need to get them out from the back wall a little and toe them in will you.
Hi sounds real.....beleive me the speakers are just fine...Martha Argerich is playing Ondine right now (at my place)....that bloom....I talked about has been watered down a little. I actually like it that way.....I guess my Bro is a bloom freak though.

Jafox....In my system the high freq are wonderful....I have'nt any complaints about the NBS upper grade cables...beautifuly balanced...but that's me....mileage may vary. One thing about NBS they have a big following in Asia...especially the Statement line...so who knows.
Oh about the NBS lack of dynamics??? Try the Nielsen recording "Alladin"....first time I played I didn't know whether I should just sit or run for my life.....My Vacs are known for their excellent dynamics and high end....but my SS Accuphase C200 preamp really creates a beautiful synergy.....I have yet to hear a tube pre that makes me want to change....
Wavetrader - My reported observations were relative. There are no absolutes here. When we upgrade a link in the chain, we are often overwhelmed with the new degree of refinement over what we had before. And until that event, we were fairly certain our system had outstanding tonal coherency, dynamic contrasts, portrayal of space, incredible resolution, etc. And then along comes one change, whether a cable, a preamp, a small-signal tube, etc., and then we are aware of what we had been missing from our great system of before.

When I first was exposed to NBS, first the Master and then a full system of Statement, I was a happy camper. I was not aware of its shortcomings because of what it did like no other cables that I had heard before. But years later, through encouragement by audio buddies, I tried some other cables and was quite floored by the flaws in the NBS. A direct comparison of the ICs and PCs made we well aware of what my system was truly capable of.

As for dynamic contrasts, this along with bloom have been the two things I have chased for 20+ years. The ARC SP-10 was the preamp that reigned supreme in both of these categories when it came out. And I have sought refinements here ever since.

Concerning tube amps that excel with dynamic contrasts, I have not heard the VACs, but after hearing the CAT vs Atmasphere amps 4 years ago, the performance of the CAT here was so far beyond that of the Atmasphere (which is a phenomenal product on its own), I seriously doubt that the CAT has any peers in this regard. This greatly influenced me to purchase the CAT.

We can be content with what we have but part of the experience is what we learn when we try something else or when a friend brings over a cable or a tube and drops it into our system. The danger is that once we hear this new level of performance it is mighty tough to return to what our reference had been before.
Jafox

"The danger is that once we hear this new level of performance it is mighty tough to return to what our reference had been before."

That is music to a dealers ear.....probably manufactures ears as well. It is really hard to look back. I do think that single ended does have the bloom. In my mind that is an upside to the very simple circuitry as much as to the tubes.