Which USB reclocker is as good as the Innuos Phoenix USB?

@lordmelton

Hope this helps

MusicFidelity wrote:

Those conventional USB filters like Jitterbug and iFi tend to ‘colour’ the sound to some degree, some like the ‘analogue’ signature but I don’t. It makes the music less engaging and seems to me there’s a roll off in the highs.

Those USB Regen like Uptone ISO Regen (I’ve tried) and Holo Audio Titanis don’t seem to effect the tonal quality but takes away the ‘layer’ and let the music simply ‘breathe’ through naturally. It don’t seem to correlate very well with technical aspects. Some DAC has already built-in a high quality USB input, some even have isolation too. I think those cheaper DAC will benefit more on SQ if they use USB Regen. Below is interesting test on ISO Regen.

Check blakep too.

Please write about your SOtM USB Ultra vs I2s comparison if you have time.

@tjag The above experience  isn't definitive in streamer vs reclocker  superiority as the Chord MScaler doesn't have optimized usb board, really meant for BNC input. I bet tables turned using dac with optimized usb board.

Antipodes is actually good platform for trying various schemes, optimized for both streaming or server only.

Always keep in mind quality of usb in dac is critical to determining best scheme. Doesn't make sense to reclock prior to quality usb board clock in dac,  does for inferior dac usb.

“Yes, I read in several places that the AES sound is more natural than the USB. Although, it could be DAC dependant also as seen in the review below.

Roasty wrote:

With my Rockna, I prefer AES over i2s, and i2s over USB. i2s has sweeter highs and tighter punchier low end, but AES has a more natural and layered sound and better textured bass. USB sounded quite sharp up top but also felt kind of a "flat" presentation.

I have all three (i2s, aes, usb) hooked up to my Rockna so I can do comparisons or swap connections when I feel like it.

But with the Holo May, I prefer USB over the rest.

The AES sampling rate is on par with Coaxial and less than USB/I2s. Wouldn’t the lower sampling rate be an issue for you?

Any experience with the I2s?”

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I don't know if sampling rate capability would be an issue (for PCM recordings).

USB sounds less real than AES to me, with or without the Phoenix in my system.

I’m going to listen thru USB again with and without Phoenix, on PCM and DSD recordings.

…..sorry, no experience with I2s.

@rfagon very interesting. I am looking forward to read the results of your comparisons.

@sns

@tjag The above experience isn’t definitive in streamer vs reclocker superiority as the Chord MScaler doesn’t have optimized usb board, really meant for BNC input. I bet tables turned using dac with optimized usb board.

You stated the following: "as the Chord MScaler doesn’t have optimized usb board".

Please define what you mean by "optimised USB board" and provide references (links) to your statements, otherwise your statements are not verifiable.

In the the M Scaler manual both the DUAL BNC & USB INPUT support the same highest sampling rates. Check section "Output sample rate settings 4.5"

The M Scaler USB is supported with galvanic isolation. Here is what the M Scaler manual states:

Galvanic isolation 6.2

Galvanic isolation involves isolating the power rails of the data USB input, allowing for greater sonic performance.

The Hugo M Scaler features a Class 2 Type-B USB input with this protection. Galvanic isolation also features on the dual-BNC outputs.