The best way for this for this thread to go away is not participating, a audio builder will try anything that has his interest, sure, some are decision failure's,, some are are satisfactory, and of course, there is the wow factor, that said, the real perspective is that the general public think's an audiophile is obsessive, wasteful of money, down right crazy for the amount of money north of $1,000.00 for an entire system, this thread has no constructive learning, although I am certainly a believer of good cable's can work to benefit a system, my reason for this post is to persuade respectable audiogon member's that this thread is like discussing politic's, a never ending debate that by the end of the day, accomplished nothing.