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Why should audiophile deniers be allowed on an audiophile forum?

Why should we be subjected to audiophile deniers, on a site dedicated to audio?
It’s antithetical to the hobby and adds nothing to the pursuit. I want to quote something from another thread.

@djones51 wrote "exposing bull products like "audiophile switches, cables, fuses " and other highly questionable devices that serve no purpose"

What then, is the purpose of people with this agenda being on this site? To “expose bull products.” It’s fine for someone to post they tried a product and it didn’t work for them, but to dismiss entire product categories is not a discussion that belongs on an enthusiast forum.

Would a car enthusiast site stand for this type of post?

Try going on a Porsche forum, just for example, and posting that your Mustang is just as fast 0-60 and that others poster’s claims about their driving experience is “dubious.” See how long that will be tolerated

There are plenty of sites to poke fun at audiophile’s obsession with cables, power conditioners etc. Why does it belong here, especially when we can’t mute specific posters?

What’s next? Arguing that speakers that measure the same must sound the same and that we are all suckers for buying expensive speakers? I thought we got rid of trolling?

Isn’t it obvious with all the ASR related posts here lately we are being trolled?

A couple of months back I read a post here about someone that ordered a new cat8 cable from China. I tried it and posted back my fantastic results for others to benefit.

Personally that’s the kind of forum I’m interested in, not to come here to be challenged about what I hear and that since it can’t be measured so it must be “dubious.”

 

 

 

 

 

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jpmanomet
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Mrskeptic Said...

"Until audiophiles allow or at least accept blind testing, they'll likely never be taken very seriously. "

I agree 100% when one is touting and promoting a product that has no specs available to support the marketing claims. I'm especially speaking of products with astronomical price tags targeted toward elitists who believe that price dictates how well an item performs which isn't always true. Don't attempt to convince others based solely on perception and not actual proof that your 4000.00 power cable makes your amplifier sound better. I'll believe that when you sit in a room with an unbiased witness and repeatedly identify that cable in a blind test over the stock cable that the engineer who designed your amp chose to provide with it. Yes there is good and valuable information presented in this forum but also quite a bit of foolishness and hype over products like this without real technical evidence to back up their BS marketing claims.

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audioguy85
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I don't know, freedom of speech? 

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You seem rather well versed with this forum for someone so New !!!

Somewhat angry as well … I am told that Feeding Chickens can be therapeutic And may assist with anger management issues .

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Just because some people question the value of expensive cables does not automatically make them "audiophile deniers". Now, if I come on here and ridicule the entire hobby, that’s one thing. But suppose I suggest that cables have a low point of diminishing returns and that money is better spent on other components. That’s a legitimate opinion about how to achieve audiophile nirvana.

Is it in fact possible that a better interconnect can improve SQ as much as a better DAC or a better preamp? I really don’t know, but would like to hear both sides (preferably backed up by either objective evidence or expert opinion). That is a big reason I visit a forum like this.

 

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