Why should audiophile deniers be allowed on an audiophile forum?


Why should we be subjected to audiophile deniers, on a site dedicated to audio?
It’s antithetical to the hobby and adds nothing to the pursuit. I want to quote something from another thread.

@djones51 wrote "exposing bull products like "audiophile switches, cables, fuses " and other highly questionable devices that serve no purpose"

What then, is the purpose of people with this agenda being on this site? To “expose bull products.” It’s fine for someone to post they tried a product and it didn’t work for them, but to dismiss entire product categories is not a discussion that belongs on an enthusiast forum.

Would a car enthusiast site stand for this type of post?

Try going on a Porsche forum, just for example, and posting that your Mustang is just as fast 0-60 and that others poster’s claims about their driving experience is “dubious.” See how long that will be tolerated

There are plenty of sites to poke fun at audiophile’s obsession with cables, power conditioners etc. Why does it belong here, especially when we can’t mute specific posters?

What’s next? Arguing that speakers that measure the same must sound the same and that we are all suckers for buying expensive speakers? I thought we got rid of trolling?

Isn’t it obvious with all the ASR related posts here lately we are being trolled?

A couple of months back I read a post here about someone that ordered a new cat8 cable from China. I tried it and posted back my fantastic results for others to benefit.

Personally that’s the kind of forum I’m interested in, not to come here to be challenged about what I hear and that since it can’t be measured so it must be “dubious.”

 

 

 

 

 

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Who decide who is a troll?

Are we a troll from the womb? 😁😊

or is being a troll is being a provocator times to times to stir the pot??

Some here are born with truth, armed with truth, and decide who is and who is not a troll...like some pope...

In my experience here trolls are not so common, most people here are people with a strong bias, we all have our own biases, i dont want to ban people save in exceptional case...

I prefer discussion with ARGUMENTS....

no one is able to PROVOKE ME why?

Because i can have arguments...and i can recognize if i am wrong with someone for some reason...

i dont want and will not call anybody here a "troll"...

I dont see that often...

What i see is sometimes some people time to time troll some discussion... But for godsake it is EASY to answer without insulting people...myself i certainly stir the pot sometimes... Am i a troll?

 

Why qualify someone of troll so easily?

Guess why?

Dividing people more is stupid...The good and the bad really? Some like to clothe themselves in "truth"...

I prefer clear and rational discussions...

i hate censorship... I dont hate any alleged "trolls" qualified so by a "pope"...

I like people of ANY kind, from any opinions, and from any ideology...

But i want to discuss not banning people... I even like the pope here... 😁😊

 

 

 

And who has the innate right to proclaim this save a "pope" :

«I don’t see why trolls should be given an equal footing in a forum dedicated to music enjoyment and the gear that gets us there. F*ck free speech. That’s been the rallying call of trolls, naysayers and provocateurs since, forever.»

Sorry i like free speech more than your proclaimed self rightfulness ...

Why not loving people who are not in accordance with our own "truth"?

I love millercarbon and nonoise alike... why?

Because they have strong character... And i am nor republican nor democrat this help a lot !

But i have also a strong character...And i am not perfect this is why i may apologize time to time...

😁😊

About free speech: the great Voltaire involved in all injustices combats of his time once said:

«Father, I hate what you write, but I will give 
my life so that you can continue to write.» 

These words are the sign of greatness...

Who will dare to contradict that?

The fathers of America constitution perfectly know Voltaire greatness, guess what comes from this fact ?

 

 

 

 

 

@helmholtzsoul … you are fooling nobody with your brand new shiny profile but recidivist modus operandi.

And yes you are quite correct, WE shall indeed see 😉

 

Ok, I have to agree with the OP here.  This is an "audiophile" forum where like-minded individuals come to discuss and debate.  This does not mean that any j***a** can just come in and beak off because they don't have anything better to do.  There are forums for a reason.  It would be like me going into a food forum and saying "All you b**ches suck at cooking!"  That would probably be it for any future posting there.  So a whole thread gets deleted because of 1 or more individuals?  It's really a kick in the nuts (or groin) for all the people who invested their time and effort.  Who really gets hurt here?  Exactly, the the backbone of the forum.  It's about time to get some nads and do the right thing.  If you can't relate and/or debate politely and constructively, then maybe your energy can be used someplace else.

A cooking forum is way more in a thin focus about world matter than an audiophile forum...

Here we speak about commercial, geopolitical, philosophical, scientific , and many others matter IMPLICATED in the business and in the hobby...

No cooking forum debate about inflated price of wheat...

Look at the vast varieties of audio threads and their opening question...

Then i agree with the politeness and constructive part,but it is impossible for all to agree on all matters RELATED to audio...

Try to make a list of matters related to audio... good luck, you will review all matters who exist even zoology...For example the different reactions of animals to sound and music...Even mathematics are related to audio by acoustic and digitral Fourier analysis...What a bat can hear? and what is listening is a neurology problem also...

Then will you ban some mathematician contesting the use of Fourier analysis in the definition of what a sound is?

Will you ban someone who discuss geopolitic and postal fees and all problems linked to world wide audio industry?

 I think we must BAN NO ONE....

It seems the fashion in Canada and in America now is to BAN everything we dont like...

Difficult and insane job...By insane people sorry....