Wilson Audio, Talon, Rockport and B&W


It's been fun after trying out some gears and cables in my system and see how each differ from one another.
Now come to the point that I might need to do my final upgrade... the big showcase of all... the mouth as some will say...
I have all those speakers on my next upgrade list.

Wilson Audio Watt/Puppy 7
Talon Firebird
Rockport Merak II/ Sheritan II
B&W Signature 800

I have heard great things about those speakers and wondering if anybody have any real life experience with above speakers?
Which of the speaker provide better bottom end, detail bass, big sound stage and still very balance in all area without colored? ( I mean, at their price, they shouldn't have any weak points in any area...right?...)

any thoguhts/experiences on the speakers will be greatly appreciated.

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It always amazes me to read threads such as this one. Many people simply state their opinions based upon what they've heard, which of course is a reasonable thing to do. When comparisons are made, however, what amazes me is how little knowledge is revealed with regard to the MANY other variables involved in discussing the kind of component in question, in this case speakers. "Beeper 99" gets at this a little bit when he discusses what happened in his case with regard to speakers and amplification.
I've not heard all the speakers in question under the exact same conditions, or at considerable length with many different components (including rooms). So I may not be of much help to the original poster either. What I did want to add, though, is that I have owned Rockport Antares for several years, and have heard them in my home with many different combinations of equipment, including different amplifiers, wire, room treatments, etc. I have also heard the speakers (and, incidentally, Merak/Sheritans) outside my home on more than one occasion. I have heard them sound slow and thick sounding. I have heard them sound extremely fast, transparent, and lean. And I have heard them sound pretty much everywhere in between. I hope this of some small help to the original poster, the moral being to listen for yourself and be aware that other factors are in play. Unfortunately this may not make your search for some expensive speakers any easier, or less anxiety provoking.
To Washline: I agree with you completely with regard to "badmouthing" and "private subjective reaction". What appeared to be the essence of Rcrump's post to me, however, was "...to promote a brand you sell." When dealers or manufacturers post here on Audiogon, in discussions among audiophile consumers, I think the line between honest, impartial contribution and self-serving behavior is very thin indeed.

Zellers: The truth is the truth. If you want to make this about me being a dealer and less believable, go ahead. There is nothing for me to gain in this post. None of the speakers mentioned are lines I carry.

I have a great deal of experience with the Hyperion's, Antares and some limited experience with the Merak/Sherritan's. I hold to my statement. The characteristics of the drivers Andy Payor uses are that of being slow, thick, lacking dynamics and transparency. It shows through in his speaker, which happen to be very nice looking and fairly well built. The speakers are always very musical and nice to listen to, but in the long run, I and prior Rockport ownerss have heard other speakers that are much more lifelike and overall more enjoyable.

Andy: Yes, I know they are polypropylene, but they do sound rubbery.
FWIW: I was trying to let the original poster know of my own personal experience. In doing so, I was trying (maybe ineptly) to suggest that he take what (all) other people say with a grain of salt ("the moral being to listen for yourself"). In doing so maybe I made a mistake in trying to clarify for "Washline" what I thought was a misunderstanding on his part, with regard to the post he responded to. I referenced "Beeper99's" post, in an effort to minimize my words as well. In any case, my concern about manufacturers and dealers (as well as designers, etc) posting in response to a question such as the original poster's continues. I'm sorry you felt I was attacking you personally.
>>There is nothing for me to gain in this post. None of the speakers mentioned are lines I carry.<<

Not true. By the simple dismissals of Rockport speakers (prior Rockport owners, more lifelike, overall more enjoyable, sound rubbery) you have offered a "professional" opinion that will benefit some other retailer/maufacturer and is out of place here. I agree with JFZ, "I think the line between honest, impartial contribution and self-serving behavior is very thin indeed". You either intentionally or unknowingly (call me a skeptic based on your posting history) have crossed that line.
Judy
Jfz: I understand and I expressed truly how I feel for no reason other than that is what I hear. We all have our listening biases. I also acknowledge that synergy plays a role in all of this.

My suggestion to all would be to listen and come to your own conclusions. Mine are posted above.

John, thank you for the explaination.