??? Wood Plinths: Layers: 7/2/1 ? Wood Type: Solid or Veneer or Vinyl Wrap wood look ?


I hope we can assemble a thread of answers about the various Wood Plinths we have or definitely know about.

I'm trying to choose a TT for my office: JVC Victor/Denon/Pioneer/Sony/Technics/Marantz .. etc. 

If I go for a Wood Base, it's confusing, both the layered construction of the base, and the actual exterior wood material. Layers: I'm asking about the deck thickness/construction for the spinner (most are thinner at arm location).

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JVC Victor Wood Plinths with CL-P_ (CL-P1, 2, 3, 10)

I believe are all Premium 70mm thick 7 layer composite construction with real wood veneer. Mostly these are separate plinths, you add a spinner and a tonearm (or 2: CL-P2 or even 3: CL-P3). What's the difference between CL-P1 and CL-P10???

JVC Turntables (factory assembled and sold as a unit): Some have removable arm boards, some don't, some have multi-layer, others 2 layers, or only 1 layer?

Denon Plinths?

Denon Turntables?

the other brands are primarily factory assembled turntables, who knows about the deck thickness/material?

Please post what you know about your specific models, current or past, or you just know, I think we all would benefit from a lot of answers, I certainly will.

GLUE:  IF Treated Well: some brands/models veneer/wrap glue holds up, others not so well, some veneer/wraps are thick, some thin, hold up, or don't. Knowledge, comments, known problematic models/

A free for all will result I hope

regards, Elliott

elliottbnewcombjr
I'm curious why you think the Denon plinth is better. I've not seen anything about the Denon plinth so I can't really compare. I know the Victor plinth is a 7 layer sandwich of wood and some sort of material in between. 70mm thick and very heavy, covered with a nice veneer.  It's hollowed out for the motor and arm boards, the rest is solid.Not trying to start an argument, trying to learn the differences.Thank you
BillWojo

chakster

you are right, I moved to private messages, sorry it didn't occur to me.

I also am curious, do you mean Denon puts a nicer finish on their plinths? They look good in photos ('ve never seen the real thing), the Victor large plinths are a a low lustre semi-gloss, less shine, less glare

structural differences?
btw, 

any forum, cameras, audio, ... any thread, I always imagine other interested readers, amateur or pro, learning stuff as I did in the beginning

so I tend to answer more than the OP's original question or issue.

When a thread takes a side line, I hope to get back on line, start a new thread, or private message as you say.

links do disappear, but for learning now, they work well.
@elliottbnewcombjr - not sure if you wanted to consider DIY approaches, but I have learned some useful tips when building mine.

I had a Rega Planar 2 and was never satisfied with it’s performance, so I thought I’d give building a new plinth a try.

Rega’s approach was to build a plinth that dispersed/shed vibrations, but it always seemed to only do half the job and the rest had to be accomplished by various stand/shelf approached

My approach was to build a more dense plinth that would not vibrate due to musical vibrations and to do this I opted for a HIGH MASS approach

I used three layers of MDF each layer machined to allow for arm and bearing mounting and Wiring and motor housing.

The layers are glued together for a very dense, but ring-free plinth
- The finish is red gloss paint

The feet are 2" diameter bronze cones placed at strategic locations to minimize vibrations being transferred to the arm and bearing

It sits on a granite tile, with foam between the granite and a 3/4" MDF shelf.

The result is a very stable (albeit heavy) TT that does not convey footsteps or musical vibrations and works incredibly well with the Rega style arms - mine is the classic Series 3 from Audiomods.

The TT also has an acrylic platter and alloy sub-platter all supported by a ceramic ball bearing.

The result is a very clean, detailed sound with exceptionally crisp dynamics.

Here’s a couple of links showing more details.
http://image99.net/blog/files/04fdba8476cfd21bdd7a5fdf38c8cdf5-28.html
http://image99.net/blog/files/category-isolation.html

Hope you find this useful - Steve

williewonka, I agree with the high mass approach and layered plinth construction. I should have my Victor CL-P2D plinth and TT 61 motor on Monday according to UPS tracking. I did buy the dustcover, probably have that by the end of next week as well.
I want to publicly thank Elliot as well for bringing that TT to my attention. I tend to forget about the Canadian market and there are deals to be had with the dollar being so strong.

So lets get back to the original post and talk about factory issued wood plinths and their construction.
I can offer that the plinth of my Victor CL-P2D is 7 layers, top, bottom and middle two layers are wood composite and the other 3 layers are a inorganic material. It's a layered construction alternating between the two types of material, each layer about 10mm thick. I have read reports that the arm boards are layered as well.
The plinth is quite heavy and very "dead" by all accounts.

BillWojo