Equipment between speakers...


I've heard this over and over again, but wonder what the details are. I've just removed my cabinet and the equipment is on 3" platforms on the floor and on the fireplace hearth (at least I think it's a hearth). It does indeed seem much more interesting from a sound-stage perspective, with added resolution. This may be spurious, as there are other changes happening at the same time.

Nevertheless, my question for those in the know is... If I had a 13' wide, by 9' high front wall with my speakers 4' out from that wall, would a wall-to-wall book shelf with books, records, equipment (lets say 18" deep) be helpful or harmful? if helpful (difusing), then what of all this "don't put your equipment between your speakers" stuff? If harmful, is it the fact that the equipment is between the speakers or that there is anything between the speakers (other than wall)?

Given the choice, would you have the book shelf with equipment strategically (and artfully) placed, or would you have a dedicated audio stand (and not bookshelf) in between, or have nothing but wall in between (with equipment off to the side and long speaker cable runs).

Many thanks, as always.

Cheers
hatari
The bookcase idea would actually get you a bit more depth to your sound stage, by the diffusion of your system's back waves. It would also go far to eliminate slap echo/resonance nodes in the room. If you are using planars; equipment actually between the speakers is not as great an issue, as they are quite beamy. Box speakers need a clear space between them, for the best propagation of sound waves. You are not talking about anything BETWEEN the speakers anyway.
Post more pictures of your entire room. The one picture on your system page could be misleading, but it does look like you're leaving much of your system's potential untapped.

Think long and hard on what look you want to wind up with first! I’ve had to change things drastically a few times because I over looked details in the esthetic… mostly the note on exposed cable runs.

Write it all donw on paper. Then, when you’ve made up your mind… go over it again. Twice. It’ll save you $$$ and time.

My experience with having anything within the desired/proposed area for reproducing the virtual sound stage has shown me this…

Having a large ‘box’ (46 – 61in RPTV) made the sound stage accumulate around the TV. On top, to either side, and made the overall depth of the stage quite uneven. Even pulling the speakers out still further into the room, closer to the LP, didn’t help much. Room size constraints prevented them from going far enough into the room as to over come the ‘plug’ in the SS itself.

So I had a wall erected with a sort of fireplace look, and pushed the big TV into the alcove/cut out. Mucho Better ola! Eventually a pr of bi fold doors covered that hole in the wall/closet and a 100 x 60 in wide, on wall screen was mounted on hinges partially covring those bi folds, but still enabling access to the now, storage area that previous void had then become.

Personally I don’t see any issues with having gear immediately between the loud speakers, or rearward of them along the wall, for instance…. So long as the gear is kept close to the floor on open stands. This cold mean several single platforms though.

Open faced ‘boxes’ (bookshelfs) will collect and push the sound into and around them. Thus altering the cohesiveness of the sonic presentation.

I think you can mitigate this effect by having one that’s open on each side and on top. Not sure… other’s will say more on that idea I’m sure.

There is definitely something to diffusing the front wall or the one behind the speakers… I never seem to call that wall rightly. Although I would not use an 18 inch deep solid side wall bookshelf to do it, unless it was wall to wall, ceiling to floor, and even I would probably not care for that esthetic.

To shed some more light onto how important the er, ‘front wall’ is… following the addition of the fixed on wall large projection screen, I can tell easily a difference between when the draperies which I use to cover the screen with are open or closed. Open the sound is smarter, harder, more forward sounding (though not agressive) and a bit cleaner overall. Closed, the sound stage gains greater coherence, smoothness and better representation. There are plenty of folds in the panels so it looks nice and adds defraction on that wall as well. They aren’t sheer, and they aren’t thermals … but somewhere in between. You can see an over head light if you hold the material up to your eye and look at one… though not vividly. I went through several types of curtains before settling on this sort.

If you can keep the area from speaker plane to the wall behind them, and from side wall to side wall empty so the sound gets an opportunity to develop without pocketing it about those items within it, I feel you’re better off.

THEN, on that wall, you can address reflection via diffusion, and/or bass via absorption. I think thereafter too a simple path with a decent esthetic is merely to drape that wall. If used with on wall diffusers you can cover them with a sheer er, drape, if no, use a bit thicker drape. If no curtain panels are going in, there’s decorative choices in color schemes for several diffuser devices I’ve seen here and elsewhere online. Some you can paint!

Setting gear off to one side or another makes you use longer spkr cables of course, but then there’s the possible issue of addressing placement of ‘some thing’ directly across from the gear stand/rack to even out the unadorned opposite wall in the same area there… respectively.

Try to get a vivid vision of the final look in your head first of what you’d like and be detail oriented. Or merely move around the gear to see it’s effect here and there, first. Everybody going to be OK with lengthy exposed spkr wires racing across the floor and along one wall? What about traffic, kids, pets, and company? And speaker wires are costly too, the longer they are! Even underneath area rugs, or inside colored ‘socks’, some folks aren’t keen on the look of lots o wire here and there… then there’s that vaccumming business too and moving them about for that…. Just thinking out loud here.

Good luck.
keep your gear between the speakers and invest in a room correction amp/pre/processor ... makes the room more living friendly if you can have the furniure where it looks best