Is Upgrading Degrading?


Is the search for the "perfect system" a kind of vulgarity?

We don't tend to say "I' had an old Bach recording, but I've upgraded to Schoenberg!" We appreciate the wildly diverse character of these two geniuses on their own terms.

ok--it may make sense to say "I've upgraded from the Spice Girls to Bartok" but once music reaches a certain level of seriousness, it seems to me the correct approach is to bask in the aesthetic differences and perhaps the same is true of music systems.

Are we really getting "better sound" along an imagined continuum that runs from ghastly cacophony to some auditory Valhalla or are we just experiencing different wonderful systems with personalities as varied and unique as human beings are?
marburg
Ebm, it's this: are you allowed to make your system do things to the music that no real-life instrument would do? Beef up the low end with a sub for example (calling Dr. Velodyne!), or add euphonious coloration (the Linnie phrase for tubes) in the mids.

Marburg, I strongly suspect that all or most all new owners of RELs go through a honeymoon with their subwoofer. I am considering a T5 for my mini-system, myself...
tobias--I'm really enjoying the T5. I know many have spoken of the challenges of integrating a sub with monitors, but have not found this to be the case with this particular item. I'm getting more and more pleasurable sound through extended adjustments but was actually able to achieve a gorgeous, well-integrated sound just by following Rel's setup instructions, in fairly short order.

As I mentioned on another thread, I particularly love the depth, pressure and pregnancy of sound I'm getting, often at very low volume. I was listening to a Ron Carter 24/96 file and was pretty much blown away, not so much by the low freq itself as the definition the sub seemed to contribute. You can hear the bassist's fingers pull the string before releasing it to vibrate. The notes' texture and attack are really in a whole new realm. If you go the Rel T5 route, I'd be very interested in your impressions.
As your system and perhaps your ear, improves, I think you becom less tolerant of modern compressed recordings. That seems to be all you get in mainstream pop recordings these days.
Part of this hobby is spreading out your musical interests. As Kurk Tank says, meeting friends with a common interest, listening to new music at shows, picking up tips from the hifi press, all lead you into new areas. Currently, having discovered the ECM label, wonderful recordings and music, I am trying to find all I can
All things are relative in regard to the "high end". Just as long is to short, and shallow is to deep. In this arena we have no measuring sticks, consequently no one knows how tall or how short their system is in comparison to the next system, and brand names alone won't cut it.

I once met an audiophile at a repair shop who invited me to check out his rig. I was dazzled by the equipment, it looked like an add out of Stereophile. He was grinning like a "Cheshire cat" when I walked in. The expression on my face told him I was impressed.

After he turned it on, I was wandering what was wrong; it sounded like a good "mid fi" rig, but nowhere near what those names were capable of producing. Since I was in transit, I didn't have the time to either tell him something was wrong or help to get it right.

Names don't guarantee the sound even when they are new. We no longer have the high end emporiums that you could visit and make a "relativity check"; consequently, who knows what's short and what's tall.
Orpheus10, you clearly do. And so does everybody else. Your ears don't lie. The goal is reality. If you're hearing more resolution, you're hearing less distortion. It's really that simple. Adding "flavor" is simply adding distortion. Having your cake and eat it too means resolution that mimics reality. You can't have one without the other. The absolute standard is fooling your ears. IMO