Cryogenic treatment of an LP?

"By the way, an alternative to sending audio items like LPs to a cryo lab is freezing them overnight in the home freezer, then let them thaw out slowly in the morning."

Really? You're really going to say that a home freezer is similar to a cryo process?

I'm sure you realize that cryogenic temperatures are in the range of -300 degrees F. I don't think the temperature in a home freezer, even a home deep freezer (about 0 degrees F), is even cold in comparison. I guess this is why we shouldn't send an LP to you.

By the way, unless your kidding consider your credibility lost on this subject with this statement.

"By the way, an alternative to sending audio items like LPs to a cryo lab is freezing them overnight in the home freezer, then let them thaw out slowly in the morning."
"Really? You're really going to say that a home freezer is similar to a cryo process?"

Yes, I'd say similar, but obviously not identical.

"I'm sure you realize that cryogenic temperatures are in the range of -300 degrees F."

Yes, I realize that. Recall I've been doing cryo for 15 years.

"I don't think the temperature in a home freezer, even a home deep freezer (about 0 degrees F), is even cold in comparison."

Obviously a home freezer is not nearly as cold as a cryo cooler, however it is a lot colder than room temperature. And it's that difference in temperature (70 degrees F) that's important.

"I guess this is why we shouldn't send an LP to you."

I already said don't send LPs to me. LOL

"By the way, unless your kidding consider your credibility lost on this subject with this statement."

Would I kid you? Does this mean I had some credibility with you prior to the home freezer statement? LOL

I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt, but now that you've essentially said that CDs and records that are shipping in the northern states in the winter will sound better than those shipped in the summer. Should audio purchases have a season that matches winter for the best result?

0 degrees F simply isn't low enough to cause a permanent material change.

Geoffkait said: ...so you have to ask yourself, why would a high end outift use cryo if it didn't work?

Because there are silly audiophiles that are willing to pay for it. Just like there are other silly people that pay for palm reading and fortune telling.

"I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt, but now that you've essentially said that CDs and records that are shipping in the northern states in the winter will sound better than those shipped in the summer. "

Hmmm, I didn't say that but it's an interesting theory. Recall I said the freeze time is overnight - about 12 hours - plus thaw time of 4 hours. So shipping time via air would not be sufficient to produce the desired effect.

"0 degrees F simply isn't low enough to cause a permanent material change."

I beg to disagree. And it's easy to prove.