Do you believe in Magic?

>>As to whether you are also a huckster, as Audiofeil suggested, I don't have an opinion.<<

I kept an email from an exchange with said goobermeister in which he demeaned the entire Audiogon readership with some fairly blunt name calling and innuendo.

Those interested, feel free to contact me for a copy.

03-13-12: Geoffkait
Byron C - So, a died in wool skeptic continues to post long, drawn out diatribes full of attacks, veiled attacks, straw man arguments and innuendo. Geez, make your posts a little less verbose and a shade more bitter and you'll be right up there with Audiofeil.

Seems like I touched a nerve. This is a bizarre response to my last post, which was neither a diatribe nor an attack. It was a request to explain why it is you fail to provide substantive information about the products you design and sell, unlike several other well regarded manufacturers who contribute to A'gon. You may experience that as an attack. I would call it a confrontation.

If you were to take a look at my posting history, you would see that I am not in the business of attacking other posters. And I seldom have this kind of direct confrontation, as I find the whole thing unpleasant. Audiofeil has already cornered the market on confrontation, anyway. He and I make unlikely allies, but the enemy of my enemy...

It's also worth pointing out, for those who've just tuned in to watch the final seconds of this train wreck, that I am not a dyed in the wool skeptic, as you suggest. The whole point of this thread, which I initiated, was to share experiences with tweaks that are difficult to explain but nevertheless EFFECTIVE. Does that sound like a dyed in the wool skeptic? On the contrary. And btw, it's "dyed in the wool," not "died in the wool." That's something they still teach in graduate school, since you were wondering.

Which brings me back to...

The nerve I touched. I suspect you're feeling cornered by my request to explain why it is you fail to provide substantive information about the products you design and sell, IF you genuinely believe in them. You apparently will not go anywhere near the vicinity of that question. That is revealing.

All in all, I would say that this absurd detour in what was otherwise a perfectly pleasant thread has run its course. My own personal opinion is that your behavior reflects very poorly on you and on Machina Dynamica. Perhaps you're starting to sense that, which is why, in your last post, you come out swinging.

But you brought this on yourself, Geoff.

Oh, and... "There is more in heaven and Earth than is dreamt of in your philosophy." Yawn.

Bryon (not Byron)

Audiofeil, Maybe he was just slinging back some of the goob that has been slung at him on Audiogon. If those who regularly use insults to comment on the products of manufacturers they are not pleased were to employ a more respectful tone they might expect a more respectful response. Is it reasonable to expect a civil reply from those to whom respect has not been shown?

Sabai, there are substantial variation in the sciences in instrumentation as well as in being able to do experiments that give information on causality. Double blind testing, especially in audio, is an invalid methodology as the indicator is not accepted by many as a isomorphic counterpart to the variable of concern.

Yes, evidence typically improves as a science matures from anecdotal to experiments assessing causality.

Engineering applies known laws from science to doing or making things. When dentists and dental schools looked for filling for cavities science came to their aid with known properties of materials, as well as warnings about their dangers. Virtually all universities have colleges of sciences as well as others for engineering.

Audio is engineering but beyond what electrical engineering can tell us. There is limited science about quartz, but little question that it impacts what we hear for better, worse, or very little. Science cannot help us on this, probably because it is not a sexy area for scientists. Geoff operates in this gray area. To some degree, we all do. Were there good science on all aspects of music reproduction, there would be few successful companies and we would all have basically the same systems.

Byron c - no, you did not touch a nerve. I've become quite used to, you could say even a little entertained by, such confrontations, as you call them. But I have to admit I'm a little confused by your comment, which seem to be your Big Gripe, that I don't explain my products. I actually have explanations for all of them with a couple of exceptions. So, it's actually you who has come out swinging before doing due diligence. By the way, your continued use of strawman arguments, (such as my lack of explanations), personal attacks and innuendo is duly noted.