Retail?

Strech? No. I also "labeled" people honest. I'm just sayin".

I'm with Bill and Al here; given that people have chimed in on both sides here, we seem to have something of a "philosophical difference," not a clear cut case of dishonesty or misrepresentation.

I don't agree with Bill that MSRP is irrelevant (assuming it reflects to some degree the going rate for a new piece): I think it gives some guidance as to what a reasonable asking price would be. To take an extreme case, surely it's not irrelevant in evaluating an asking price of 2000 that the current MSRP is 1000.

In the end, of course, it's up to the negotiating parties to decide what they can live with, MSRP notwithstanding.

As I said earlier, often times the seller is not the original purchaser. The second hand price will vary over time or circumstances. The newest reseller might only be left with limited resources regarding discovery of the original MSRP of that particular unit. Due to the way things are marketed, most items only have a few years in which they are marketed new, and the MSRP usually doesn't vary all that much during that run. Expecting the newest reseller to list the price he paid for a used item as the "Original Purchase Price is not what is intended by "Original Price" (as I understand it), means little, and one might argue; really isn't really anyone one else's business. The condition of such a used item would be amongst those things that would mean more to me than whether the listed MSRP was off by a year or two. I wouldn't let an honest mistake, when making an honest effort to provide a potential buyer with as much information as possible, as grounds for labeling a seller dishonest. I'd suggest that those that would, not even walk on the same side of the street as a glass house. With that in mind, they might want to stay out of Manhattan.:-)

"Expecting the newest reseller to list the price he paid for a used item as the "Original Purchase Price is not what is intended by "Original Price" (as I understand it), means little, and one might argue; really isn't really anyone one else's business."

Agree.

Honest mistakes are not at all dishonest. Dishonest mistakes are not mistakes at all. I guess the issue is should one disclose MSRP (not purchase price)for the specific item on sale at the time of manufacture. Some say yes, some say no. Some say it is irrelevant, some think not. Would be interesting to discuss the basis for seeing things in such a different way - a good use for a good beer.

As to the philosophical take on this, well I suppose that can go on forever.