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What Does Holographic Sound Like?

And how do you get there? This is an interesting question. I have finally arrived at a very satisfying level of holography in my system. But it has taken a lot of time, effort and money to get there. I wish there had been a faster, easier and less expensive way to get there. But I never found one.

Can you get to a high level of holography in your system with one pair of interconnects and one pair of speaker wires? I don't believe so. I run cables in series. I never found one pair of interconnects and speaker wires that would achieve what has taken a heck of a lot of wires and "tweaks" to achieve. Let alone all the power cords that I run in series. Although I have found one special cable that has enabled the system to reach a very high level of holography -- HiDiamond -- I still need to run cables in series for the sound to be at its holographic best.

There are many levels of holography. Each level is built incrementally with the addition of one more wire and one more "tweak". I have a lot of wires and "tweaks" in my system. Each cable and each "tweak" has added another level to the holography. Just when I thought things could not get any better -- which has happened many times -- the addition of one more cable or "tweak" enabled the system to reach a higher level yet.

Will one "loom" do the job. I never found that special "loom". To achieve the best effects I have combined cables from Synergistic Research, Bybee, ASI Liveline, Cardas, Supra and HiDiamond -- with "tweaks" too numerous to mention but featuring Bybee products and a variety of other products, many of which have the word "quantum" in their description.

The effort to arrive at this point with my system has been two-fold. Firstly, finding the right cables and "tweaks" for the system. Secondly, finding where to place them in the system for the best effects -- a process of trial and error. A lot of cables and "tweaks" had to be sold off in the process. I put "tweaks" in quotation marks because the best "tweaks" in my system have had as profound effect as the components on the sound. The same for the best of the cables, as well. For me, cables and "tweaks" are components.

Have I finally "arrived"? I have just about arrived at the best level that I can expect within my budget -- there are a couple of items on the way. In any case, I assume there are many levels beyond what my system has arrived at. But since I'll never get there I am sitting back and enjoying the music in the blissful recognition that I don't know what I am missing.

I should mention that there are many elements that are as important as holography for the sound to be satisfying, IMO. They include detail, transparency, coherence, tonality, and dynamics, among others. My system has all of these elements in good measure.

Have you had success with holographic sound in your system? If so, how did you get there?
sabai
chadeffect
586 posts
 
I am amazed that people are so offended by Geoffs information or lack of it. I guess we all take comfort in the world we construct around us. So anything that threatens that view is upsetting.

I like to think I'm a reasonable, educated and logical guy. I 1st read about the x pen and those kind of very odd tweaks from PWBELT in the 1990s.

Like most of you reading this I thought it was nuts. But it seems unlike some of you, I tried a sample to decide for myself. If it didn't work send it back. So what was to lose apart from a little time tinkering with the Hifi?

As I mentioned in an above post I had something happen (using PWBELT foils). It was there and the others in the room experienced it too.

As to what happened and why? I cannot help you there. But as a professional who works in recording studios I can say hand on heart the music comming out of the speakers was changed, and for the better. The expression was more obvious.

I wish I could say nothing happened and it was a load of nonsense, but unfortunately and to my dismay something happened.

Lets face it, how could a sticky backed foil placed on a electrical circuit do anything?

Lets say it was all in my head and the couple of friends heads there too. So maybe just going through that process caused us to be effected by the music differently? If so it still worked! We should hand it out at gigs!lol

I'm sure there are many charlatans out there, but if they are offering the chance to try their "product" and return it, why not give it a go? It's all part of the hobby.

If that were the case these following posts would be way more interesting. Because now all we have is the end. Little has been learned or experienced. I thought the point of these forums was to share experience and ideas.
theaudiotweak
2,801 posts
 
Chad

For me the collection and direction of mechanical energy is the basis of my in home holographic display device. That is my sound system. Tom
csontos
1,311 posts
 
Tom, but what if you didn't have a panel and just a single line with no breaker? The wire itself is insulated.
theaudiotweak
2,801 posts
 
Csontos

If everything was point to point hard wired that would be the best. If you had a choice of non ferrous shields and how they affect the audio playback chain that too would be audible. Elimination of the fuse and or breaker is audible also. I have replaced the fuse and the sound improved drastically. I have not bypassed the breaker. Tom
chadeffect
586 posts
 
Hi Theaudiotweak,

When I had a more complex system I played with various ways to drain vibration away or suspend from vibration. It became quite important once you tuned into it. I found it did clean things up slightly.

I found various materials contributed to the sound in differing ways. Some making it sound hard, some sluggish and so on.

It's funny that now my set up is more simplified I don't find it as susceptible to changes of platform or added weight, cones, wood, glass etc anymore. (I haven't had a TT since the early 90s.)

I think now the equipment is so simple that there is hardly anything in it left to vibrate.

Having said that my flea power tube amp is suspended by an air bed and the tubes are damped. The caps are mainly dulunde so are pretty immune to vibration. So there is still a legacy of that approach including potted inductors in the xovers.

Lets face it to get a holographic sound it is about attention to detail. Each small step adding up to a larger over all effect on the presentation.
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