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Integrated Amps: Classe vs. Audio Refinement?

I'm in the process of setting up a simple, two channel A/V system. I'll be using a pair of Definitive BP-2004TLs as speakers. Does anyone have first hand experience with both Classe CAP-80 and Audio Refinement Complete integrated amps?

I don't want the sound to be too laid back; I want it to have some life and dynamics. The amp will be used for these speakers only, and future expandability is not a consideration (I normally listen to Apogee Stages with different electronics).

Also, does the Classe "thump" through the speakers? I read another thread that said the Classe CAV "thumps". I wouldn't put up with that.
jamestakamatsu
jamestakamatsu OP
25 posts
 
Thanks, everyone, for the recommendations. But now that I decided to get the Classe, none are available for sale! Ahh, such is audio...
subaruguru
1,376 posts
 
The transformer in the ARC is larger than the one in the single YBA, but smaller than the DT YBA....
Decaf, Natalie....
danvetc
527 posts
 
Beware the "much more" this and "much more" that. Way too stong a statement for the relatively subtle differences in these type amps, IMHO. I just sold an ARC, and if it is "tube like" then so is the Creek 4330 and the 5350SE, which I still have. I guess Creek should add that to it's ad campaign. But, then again, I think most of us ss types like the distortion free sound of basically perfect solid state modern designs from these reputable manufacturers. Charlie
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