A question I'm sure you've never heard before....


I am spanking new to this site and board. I suppose if this is anything like any number of the various subject boards I've been on, this will be a topic that the regulars will have all heard and have hashed and rehashed, but here goes.

I am doing things a bit differently than some, I would guess. I've started with my front end and have resurrected my old Linn LP12 Valhalla with Ittok LVII (and yes, I do plan to upgrade in the future but not right away). I got an exceptional deal on a Benz H2 "Woody" so I bought it. I have a McCormack DNA-225 SS amp. Now I want to add either a preamp and phono stage or a combined unit such as a CJ PV10A, or the like. Would like to spend maybe $1600 tops (used- I prefer to let others take the depreciation on most components and I have heard that Audiogon is a reliable place to buy). Then, I will select speakers and, finally, speaker cables to match the speakers and interconnects to complement the other components with the largest budget earmarked to the preamp/amp connection.

I like medium to heavy rock (but not metal), jazz (mostly sax and piano), blues, and, like most everyone, female vocalists. My room is about 18X26 feet (bigger than what I'd prefer for a stereo room). Stereotypical plaster walls, carpeting, drapes, wood, metal, stuffed furnishings.

I wanted the McCormack for various reasons and now I want to match to it a TUBE preamp and phono stage, or a combo unit. Looked at some EAR products, which I really liked, but their price did not like me. I really would like to stay in the $1600 used neighborhood if possible.

If anyone out there has experience in this area, please lay your recommendations on me. After I make this part of my decision, I will be back to pick your brains more with regard to speakers! I know you all just dying for that time to come. HA... At present I am contemplating PSB, Proac, Sililoquy, and Martin Logan – and, if I can get a great deal, maybe Dunlavy. I plan to spend about $3K on the pair of whatever I get.

Anyone wanna chime in on the preamp/phono part for now? I’d be obliged to all with constructive opinions – those that want to poke fun of my meager outlay can remain quiet and, instead, sell me their cast offs on the cheap! ;-)
motdathird
CJ bought McCormack when it was about to go under, then put ol' Steve back in charge of his company (divorce sucks). C+J commented on the nice match that happens between the CJ preamps and McCormack amps. I have used a CJ PV11L with a DNA.5 and a DNA.5 Rev A, and it tryly was a great match. I'm using Rogue and Cary products now, but the CJ stuff was great. I wanted a remote controlled integrated amp, so I decided to give up the classic PV-11L. I hear great things about the Rogue 99 preamp, which is supposed to have a great phono stage, and has a great company behind it (I'm absolutely positive about this). I've never heard it, though. I prevously owned a CJ PV 10AL, and it wasn't as refined as the '11L but it was really nice sounding, nevertheless.
good luck.
rogue audio 66 preamp with phono is respectable and within budget, about $1300 new, there is one posted used for $875, hard to beat imo, and you'd have more budget for speakers. of course, you'll likely want to step up to the bigger brother, the 99 preamp which would set you back farther than you want right now. call mark o'brien at rogue, very friendly and a pleasure to talk to when i needed customer support. also, rogue will be expanding their preamp/amp line to include two separate phono preamps soon, if not already. there will be a standard mm/mc pre at about $800, and a reference phono pre at about $1800. having lived with the 99/88 combo for about a year, i can't imagine being disappointed at this price point.
of course, there is the audible illusions 3a, about $1100 used seems to be what they go for, give or take a bit. never listened, but from what i hear one of the damn finest phono sections to be had with a linestage.
if i may recommend speakers, check out the spendor line in addition to what you've already suggested interest in, specifically the sp1/2 monitors. new with sound anchor stands about $2700, can be found used for about $1500 if patient.
welcome to the hobby
please audition all the gear you can in person, and at home if possible. remember , you must live with it.
my advice is to stretch your budget as far as you can IF you've happened across an item you are in love with. the extra $500 spent then, as painful as it may be, will often prevent some of the upgradeitis later on. upgradeitis can turn that $500 into a more painful $2500 in no time.
my 2 cents
hope it helps
cheers and regards
Rogue and Blue Circle offer tube preamps in your price range. Don't think the Blue Cirle has a phono stage.
If you only plan to build analogue system than EAR834P phono with volume control will be good enough for you under 1K. If you will order it directlyu from UK you will buy it new at the used price.
I'll second the ARC SP-9 but only the MKIII version. I have the MKII and the MKIII. The MKIII can be had for about $1000, the MKII (not bad) for $600-$800. Be forewarned that it's a warm (colored) sounding pre, ideal for taming a bright system. NOS tubes are a must. Siemens for a more detailed sound. Telefunken for a warmer presentation. Amperex is somewhere inbetween. It's a hybrid with a 6922 for line and one for phono. Good enough for McCormack gear.