Shoot-out I would like to see - Berning ZH270 vs.

I'd say its doubtful that a 60 betters the 270 significantly in terms of sonic integrity across the board. There is a switch to adjust feedback of the 270 with a "Low" option which is in my opinion the way to go, it is wonderful.

I'm not sure who's ears I trust, Jtinn's or his "couple of friends."

The Atmasphere M-60's were what I was going to buy at first instead of the Berning 270 and I chose the 270 for its obvious advantages. I took a chance with the 270 not having heard the 60 or 270 at the time and feel I chose wisely, I also can use whatever speakers I want with the 270, a person is more limited with the 60's.

I have to agree with TWL. The Berning Siegfried, after 12+ yrs in this hobby, has blown me away to a place I thought I was too jaded to experience anymore. (I'm using the 300b model, w/ Avantgarde Duos). I haven't heard Atma Sphere gear, or even the 270, for that matter. All I wonder is why the Siegfried remains such a secret. It's a technical and sonic masterpiece. It has all the finesse and intimacy of any tubed gear I've ever heard, with none of the coloration or euphony, and much higher musical resolution. And the bass slam, authority and control of a SS rig. How insane is that?

I wish I could use the Siegfried on Soundlabs :)

I'll tell you what Davidz, you ship your Siegfried to me and I'll ship my zh270 to you and then we'll both have a frame of reference of how one compares to the other. And of course we'll post our results here. I KNOW Twl and Chris are interested in the comparison, whata ya say? I think I could live with 10 watts of Siegfried for a week or two.

Will, Chris, et. al., If you guys are like me, you need to hear things yourself to judge (plus it's more fun! to actually play with the equipment) rather than rely on what others say. Having said that, there was a thread over on the Asylum a while back where comparisons between the Seigfried and the 270 were made. If I remember right, they were judged to be pretty close, given the significant design differences. Do a search for 'seigfried' in SET asylum, I think. No substitute for hearing the real thing, of course.....